Precision rimfire rifle choice

You got me. I said it to impress random people I will never meet on the Internet to elevate my CGN status.

I suspect that you said it out of ignorance about what is "doable" with a factory Ruger rimfire, a brand, incidentally, that doesn't have a reputation for match rifle accuracy. (Please note that here "ignorance" means simply "not knowing," not the mistaken view that somehow it means "rude.") The claim may have been compounded by ignorance of how to interpret groups on a target. Perhaps you know this, but is important to keep in mind when discussing group size on a target, each round fired, each hole on the target counts. There are no mulligans for "flyers," no saying "I knew this shot would be off -- I called it -- so it doesn't count. A ten shot group that is 0.5 MOA at 100 yards means that all ten shots count and all ten must be 0.5 MOA (or very close to 0.5"). There is no shame in conceding that you didn't know this; a lot of people who may be relatively new to shooting wouldn't.

As a final observation, there must be some ignorance here because if a shooter shot a ten shot group at 100 yards with a rimfire, be it a match rifle or a more run of the mill model, at 100 yards, he would know that such results would be worthy of a picture for posterity. Such results don't occur very often indeed.
 
As a final observation, there must be some ignorance here because if a shooter shot a ten shot group at 100 yards with a rimfire, be it a match rifle or a more run of the mill model, at 100 yards, he would know that such results would be worthy of a picture for posterity. Such results don't occur very often indeed.

Agreed. Even match rifles, on a perfect day I would save the target, post pictures of it with the rifle, send pics to everyone I know or anyone who would care.

Of several books of targets, I can’t find anything of mine even close to .5”. 1.264 is my personal best at 100 and that group was and is stellar to me to this very day. And some 5 years on, have yet to equal it, let alone do it more than once.

Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes, given the ammo and rifle involved.
 
I suspect that you said it out of ignorance about what is "doable" with a factory Ruger rimfire, a brand, incidentally, that doesn't have a reputation for match rifle accuracy. (Please note that here "ignorance" means simply "not knowing," not the mistaken view that somehow it means "rude.") The claim may have been compounded by ignorance of how to interpret groups on a target. Perhaps you know this, but is important to keep in mind when discussing group size on a target, each round fired, each hole on the target counts. There are no mulligans for "flyers," no saying "I knew this shot would be off -- I called it -- so it doesn't count. A ten shot group that is 0.5 MOA at 100 yards means that all ten shots count and all ten must be 0.5 MOA (or very close to 0.5"). There is no shame in conceding that you didn't know this; a lot of people who may be relatively new to shooting wouldn't.

As a final observation, there must be some ignorance here because if a shooter shot a ten shot group at 100 yards with a rimfire, be it a match rifle or a more run of the mill model, at 100 yards, he would know that such results would be worthy of a picture for posterity. Such results don't occur very often indeed.
Well said, the poster was given several chances to retract...
If I shot three 10 shot groups at 1/2” @ 100 with a centerfire I would be pretty excited and snap a pic or 2...let alone a 22LR!!
 
Not "ten" shots... "thirty" shots into 0.5" at 100 yards... see below.

I referred to a ten shot group into 0.5" at 100 yards. The OP referred to three 10 shot groups into 0.5" at 100 yards.

So that no one misunderstands, neither is "'thirty' shots into 0.5" at 100 yards." Thirty shots into 0.5" is something else entirely.

To illustrate, it may be one thing to shoot 5 shots into 0.5" at 100 yards -- or even 50 for that matter. It is something else to shoot 10 shots into 0.5" at 100 yards -- or even 50 for that matter. And it would be extraordinary to shoot 30 shots into 0.5" at 100 yards -- or, again, at 50 for that matter. The more shots in a group the larger the group becomes. If anyone doesn't believe that, try shooting five consecutive 5 shot groups within 0.5" at 50 yards. With a good rifle and good ammo that is very doable. It is much more difficult to shoot all 25 shots into a single group that is within 0.5" at 50 yards.
 
This site needs a like button.

Grauhanen is dropping some excellent rimfire knowledge here.

To the OP - either the CZ455/457 or the Tikka T1x would be what I would get. Maybe a touch more dollar wise but the quality will show up on target.
 
Im not here to brag or impress anyone. And I don't work for Ruger. The gun is capable of that accuracy. Not sure why you would doubt a rimfire can accomplish that either.

Tried many rounds through it. Hot rounds are not so good. 1070 FPS CCI Standard Velocity is dime sized in no wind.

Not even sure if my Vudoo or the Anschutz guns can hold .5MOA at 100 for 10 rd groups.

Maybe once in awhile but not consistently. Heck, most CF guns can't do that.

I seldom post target photos, or say what I can/can't achieve accuracy-wise because quite honestly...I'm shooting less than ever these days. Accuracy doesn't improve with less practice..or with age in my case. lol Longboat~If your Ruger PR, shooting CCI SV is putting them inside of a 1" @ 100 yards reliably...there will be a line up of guys wanting to buy it from you...and I may be in that line! lol I wanted an RPR pretty badly when they came out, but when accuracy reports started surfacing....I got very cold feet.

The best 100 group I've ever shot was with my .223 while load testing, and I stopped at 3 shots. lol From 100 yards with a 16x scope, it looked like 1 hole. Up close, it almost was. I've never sent a target photo to more people than I did that one, and the target itself is pinned to the wall over my reloading bench. Overall, I don't have a great interest IN target shooting...save FOR load testing, scope zeroing, ammo testing, etc. I'm also probably THE least competitive person I know...so I never bother getting involved in forum competitions, "prove it" 50 yard challenges, etc. At least, not yet. lol My rimfire outings are usually solo ventures (save for the mosquitoes) with the plinking/target-shooting ratio of about 10:1. Then I start to question shooting SK Rifle Match through my Anschutz at flies that land on the target. lol
 
I am looking at trying out some precision rimfire events this season and am wondering about peoples opinions on the ruger precision 22 bolt action rifles.Is this a decent rifle to get started or is there something else you would recommend. I dont want to spend an excessive amount as i have bought too many handguns already this year.The scope i have to use is a bushnell elite tactical 3-12x44. Thanks in advance for any help.

I just got a T1X with the same scope that you have. Very happy with it so far. Hopefully in another month I’ll have a KRG Bravo for it and it will be set up the exact same way as my .308 PRS gun. If you have a RPR in center fire I would recommend getting the Ruger rimfire so you are practicing with essentially the same gun.
 
So that no one misunderstands, neither is "'thirty' shots into 0.5" at 100 yards." Thirty shots into 0.5" is something else entirely.

For the purposes of incredulous"ness"... three consecutive 10 shot groups into sub-1/2 MOA... serves well.

That is, not a single flier or shooter blip in thirty consecutive shots... with CCI SV's... @ 100 yards.

Can't say that I have done that in four decades plus of shooting rimfire... not that I am any sort of marksmanship benchmark... but I have been doing it with better rifles and better ammo than the RPR/SV combo. Suffice to say, I would love to see it done... even at 9 am on a windless day.
 
I just got a T1X with the same scope that you have. Very happy with it so far. Hopefully in another month I’ll have a KRG Bravo for it and it will be set up the exact same way as my .308 PRS gun. If you have a RPR in center fire I would recommend getting the Ruger rimfire so you are practicing with essentially the same gun.

It really isnt the same gun though. The ergos, bolt (3 lug vs 2), balances are all going to be different.

I really don't but into the PRS trainer theory with 22LR - things are just too different (recoil being the main thing) for their to be much crossover. The mental aspect of doing the drills/stages is beneficial but that would be the case with any gun.
 
Wish i could find those targets. But apparently nobody would believe me anyways lol. Here's a fresh group I just did with the RPR. Maybe I should not have said half inch dime sized as I just measured a dime and it's like .709.

Anyways, 7/10 are dime sized. @.742 - 3 were a bit off today for whatever reason...

100 yards. CCI SV. Mild breeze.

I shot 3, 10 shot dime sized groups in a row, with this rifle. Which is about .709"

http://imgur.com/gallery/0F5wiY4
 
Wish i could find those targets. But apparently nobody would believe me anyways lol. Here's a fresh group I just did with the RPR. Maybe I should not have said half inch dime sized as I just measured a dime and it's like .709.

Anyways, 7/10 are dime sized. @.742 - 3 were a bit off today for whatever reason...

100 yards. CCI SV. Mild breeze.

I shot 3, 10 shot dime sized groups in a row, with this rifle. Which is about .709"

http://imgur.com/gallery/0F5wiY4

Why are you not counting the 3 shots below the main group?

Looks like a 1 1/2” group to me.
 
For the purposes of incredulous"ness"... three consecutive 10 shot groups into sub-1/2 MOA... serves well.

That is, not a single flier or shooter blip in thirty consecutive shots... with CCI SV's... @ 100 yards.

Can't say that I have done that in four decades plus of shooting rimfire... not that I am any sort of marksmanship benchmark... but I have been doing it with better rifles and better ammo than the RPR/SV combo. Suffice to say, I would love to see it done... even at 9 am on a windless day.

^I was thinking the same. My Anschutz 64 actually shoots CCI SV extremely well, with SK Rifle Match having an edge. When I'm @ my best, group sizes can be remarkably similar between the two, the KEY being consistency. I get unexpected fliers using the CCI SV, and none with the SK Rifle Match. (unless I'm to blame, or a gust kicks-up) I've also seen, over countless..thousands of rounds over the years...how wind impacts even 50 yard groups, let alone 100. Subsonic ammo is just unremarkable @ 100 yards, and too prone to being blown off course. Yes, bullets will reach that far...but for shots 100 yards+, most calibers just work better. So..I'm not among the group of people trying to punch good groups @ 100 yards with a 22LR and subsonic ammo. I'm honestly not even super interested in putting time into that.

I do shoot beyond that distance while out west for gophers, using a 452 Varmint and CCI Blazer. Leading up to those trips, I practice @ 75/100/150. I also recognize that once past about 75 yards, the excessive wind means luck is a factor too. A big one. lol I send ammo out west by the case for those trips, so after several back-to-back 500 round+ days...you get a pretty strong sense of what your rifle, and 22LR can is actually capable of. :)
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EDIT: meant to add something else to my ramblings..and this qualifies as rambling too~I don't think it's possible to do a ton of shooting and NOT see/achieve something remarkable, that nobody else is likely to believe. I had my own experience like that in the spring of 2018, and had it not been witnessed...nobody would believe me. lol So I remain open minded that LB maybe pulled this off, but more surprised that it happened with an RPR.
 
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Shot over wind flags with match ammo during one of our 100 Meter Rimfire shoots. The 100-10X measured 0.602 c-c.
The rifle is a custom stocked Anschutz with a 36X scope IIRC.

Amazing how these guys shooting one holers are vacant on game day . . .

"Dime sized" means a dime will cover every bit of every hole . . . one need not be a veterinary surgeon to recognize horses manure!
 
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