School me on BCL 102s

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I am totally green to gas-operated rifles but I'm very interested in getting into a .308/6.5cm semi. I read what reviews I could find on this site and found it to be pretty much what I'm looking for but I'm not sure what accessories I will need and what kind of troubleshooting I will run in to.

First off I am not sure about buying brand new vs. a used rifle due to nobody in my area carrying them or having one in stock to check out for myself. I'm not uncomfortable with buying online, I was just hoping not to have a huge wait time for new stock to come in. However, I don't know what problems to look for in used rifles should I buy one from the EE.

Second is what kind of tools should I buy to go with this rifle and what kind of tuning will it require should I have problems with certain ammo? I've read these run pretty well with most ammo but again, I have nobody to lask except this forum should I run into problems at the range.

Thanks for the help.
 
As much as I wish I could say “heck yeah buy that Canadian made rifle it’s awesome!” I just can’t unfortunately. It’s not a bad rifle but there is a better option for the same or less money. That option is the Stag 10. The 102 uses a mish mash of different parts so building and customizing is a bit harder. The stag uses all standard bits and is a super nice rifle in all aspects. I built one from a receiver set and would not buy anything else to fill its roll. Just my two cents
 
Put it this way... they started out being $1750 then $1550 now dealers have on sale for $1350 and on EE $1000- $1300 (on average, some guys trying to get their 2K back).

This is a non restricted AR10 in Canada, the reason for the drop as many have mentioned Stag10 the BCL just isn’t in the same class hence the price drops as soon as it came out. If you grab one for $1000-1200 it’s not a bad deal but be aware you are getting something they may not be what you are hoping for.
 
They're definitely a decent rifle for what they sell for now, which is $1,550.00 new or less on the EE.

And I'm not only saying that because I have one for sale :rolleyes:.
 
Imo biggest issue is the material and not being anodized. I have both and am happy but would go stag if you can find one.
 
They are not terrible in my experience, i own one and i like it just fine. It has been reliable and shoots decent, although the stag is a bit nicer. Nicer but also expensive.
 
Here is my honest report on another thread.

Now that I have a lot more experience and access to friends with great experience, if I did this now, I would buy a BCL 102 upper and lower and build the rest to my liking. I love the ergonomics and functionally of the BCL upper and lower. It just works well for me as apposes to standard patterns such as Stag. High-end AR 10 platforms are great, however, being north of 5,000, AND still, their class is restricted, these remained out of reach.
 
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Don't people use the search function on here anymore? There has got to be about 20 of these exact same type of threads in the last year. And the person asking always gets the same advise. Early BCL's had issues, they have gotten better, they warranty their stuff, their price has plummeted since the stag 10's came out. Some guy will always chirp in 'I have ###X rounds through my 102 no problems. It's a great rifle.' The stag 10 is a better rifle. If you have the choice of either, you'd have to be brain dead to choose the BCL over the stag 10.
 
I am not brain dead.

For considerably less than a Stag 10 I got a decent rifle with scope, rings, sling, 4 spare mags, bipod, tactical case etc

My BCL shoots well with no issues and I will have many range sessions with ammo paid for by the lower purchase price, shooting a Canadian rifle over the Stag
 
55recce said:
I am not brain dead.

For considerably less than a Stag 10 I got a decent rifle with scope, rings, sling, 4 spare mags, bipod, tactical case etc

My BCL shoots well with no issues and I will have many range sessions with ammo paid for by the lower purchase price, shooting a Canadian rifle over the Stag
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Until it breaks then at least you will have the scope, rings, sling, 4 spare mags, bipod, tactical case etc to use on your Stag 10 haha
 
mileageman said:
Don't people use the search function on here anymore? There has got to be about 20 of these exact same type of threads in the last year. And the person asking always gets the same advise. Early BCL's had issues, they have gotten better, they warranty their stuff, their price has plummeted since the stag 10's came out. Some guy will always chirp in 'I have ###X rounds through my 102 no problems. It's a great rifle.' The stag 10 is a better rifle. If you have the choice of either, you'd have to be brain dead to choose the BCL over the stag 10.
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Sorry I didn't find the info I was looking for in the posts I searched and read. I didn't realize it was such an inflammatory issue to post questions about firearms in a firearm forum.

Honestly with input from this thread I'm still looking at getting a BCL102 just because the money saved will get me an optic and accessories and I really have no intention of changing it from stock for a while, which means I may just sell it and get a Stag at that time.
 
I have two BCL 102's....later production so no apparent problems yet. But I have only tested one and put 50 indoor rounds thru it. I don't mind being called brain dead if that makes anyone else feel better about themselves. I don't know anything about the Stag 10. The BCL seems like a nice enough rifle but until I get to an actual outdoor range to test, I would rather hump my M14 shorty around for my 7.62 option.

I think for $1200 you would be happier buying the BCL 102 then those that prepaid at the $1800 price. The bitterness compounds itself when you make a prepayment, wait too long, and then get a version too early in the production run. And in the meantime, other options avail themselves.
 
Buy one shoot it if it runs good let us know so everyone can say your full of it. Or if its not what you hoped let us know so the same people can say see i told you so. Cgn is a great palce once you memorize the names of the people with nothing but negative comments.
 
55recce said:
I am not brain dead.

For considerably less than a Stag 10 I got a decent rifle with scope, rings, sling, 4 spare mags, bipod, tactical case etc

My BCL shoots well with no issues and I will have many range sessions with ammo paid for by the lower purchase price, shooting a Canadian rifle over the Stag
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Sorry, but your BCL was cheaper because it's a cheaper rifle, there is a reason the price keeps dropping. Read through the last few pages of threads in this forum and you will see so many threads about owners having problems with their rifle it gets silly. I can't believe that anyone kept buying them after gen 2 was released and they had changed a bunch of stuff to stop people from being able to buy aftermarket stuff for them.

BCL makes a good rifle IF you get one that's built right. The problem is that even if you get a good one it probably won't last. As has been the story with NEA and now BCL, the best thing about them is the lifetime warranty, unfortunately if you modify your rifle (and who doesn't modify an AR) you can void your warranty.

I believe they are 6061 which isn't exactly a problem but it is a softer aluminum than 7075 and my understanding is that they are not anodized either, only cerekote. I love cerekote, it's a very durable and slippery coating but anodizing is a surface hardening treatment which should be done before the cerekote or other coating is applied. When it wears through (and it eventually will) you will be running the carrier against the soft 6061. Warranty should cover this but in 5-10 years who knows if this company will still even be in business to warranty the rifle.


870supermag said:
Buy one shoot it if it runs good let us know so everyone can say your full of it. Or if its not what you hoped let us know so the same people can say see i told you so. Cgn is a great palce once you memorize the names of the people with nothing but negative comments.
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Most of the negativity is rightly directed at BCL, they have a long history of letting stuff out the door that a retarded monkey should have caught in QC and thrown in the rejects pile.
There have simply been way too many negative reports from owners for it to be worth risking $1200-$1800 on anything that comes out of the BCL shop.
 
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Gentlemen, particularly cr5 and Wal Mart Greeter - do you speak from personal experience? Have you owned a BCL102?
 
I've shot two different BCLs at two separate range trips. Both preformed better than I expected at 300m. And had zero issues. Also one friend liked the painted coating as it gets 'battleworn' easily. Everyone likes them that I know who actually owns one.
 
55recce said:
Gentlemen, particularly cr5 and Wal Mart Greeter - do you speak from personal experience? Have you owned a BCL102?
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Ive build 3 BCL 102s and ever since the Stag10 came out there is no need to even bother looking at the 102s unless they start selling the complete rifles for 500$ ;)

I posted plenty of pictures last year with side by side comparison on the chitty BCL parts to the Stag parts its night and day !
 
I have a gen 2 BCL 102 and have had zero issues with it, i was slightly worried prior to purchasing it given all the bad press on here. I was pleasantly surprised.
 
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