Precision rimfire rifle choice

Erkil 1 a long way to get some info and lots of other stuff :). A quick look at my gun shoots 1/2” at 50 will give a good idea on what guns will work for you. A good gun will be worth your time. By the way, I do have guns capable of the 1/2” challenge, but my shooting has not been (4 out of 5) hard not to get I flyer or screw up in 25 shots.
 
grauhanen said:
I'd like to get some of that AE ammo. Do you have any targets that were shot with it?
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Yes/No/Sorta.

I was working at teaching some accuracy basics to others, dialling, zeroing, posture etc. then let them loose and challenged them to make their own 'proud moment' target.

All was going quite well, so i started running my own sets of 5 shot groups.... that is until i grossly underestimated how much ''fun'' my new charges were having.

I was on shot #3 target #2, things were going just swimmingly, when ... a new hole appeared on my target #2. Not a huge deal, but I had not fired it.

Turns out my range buddies thought it would be absolutely HILARIOUS to add some of their bulletholes to MY target.

Outwardly I laughed.

On the inside as well you could imagine, i was less than thrilled....
 
Some good shooting on here,

My silhouette rifle is a Holeshot Arms (Stiller) 2500X single-shot with a 2-groove Benchmark barrel, a Bix N’Andy trigger, and a 25X Leupold on top. With its favoured lot of Midas+, it won’t average 1/2 moa groups at 100 yards. Mind you, in my 10-shot groups I do count all 10 shots. ;)

With CCI? Lol
 
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Got Juice? said:
Turns out my range buddies thought it would be absolutely HILARIOUS to add some of their bulletholes to MY target. Outwardly I laughed. On the inside as well you could imagine, i was less than thrilled....
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You wouldn't like our regular early morning gang then (centerfire)... nobody gets away with a good group...
 
mac100 said:
I think Longbow you mean well and am sure you have been shooting a long time as most of us here in the Rimfire section have.

Most of us here reload for Cenerfire rifles and trim and weigh cases and powder and pretty much can produce a round that would still have a hard time putting 10 shots into a dime at 100m. It’s definitely something all of us reloaders have probably done, but with Rimfire it’s incredibly difficult because the ammo cannot be tailored to our needs.

So you have to understand that if someone achieves a 10 shot dime size group 3x with any ammo in the best rifle barrel configuration that he has achieved the one true goal that seems virtually unobtainable in his life.

Most of these guys are here because they have achieved most of their goals in centerfire or know that it’s possible to achieve what they need to get, but Rimfire is almost Like black magic.
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Longboat~^this is well said, mac100 hit the nail on the head. I've been an enthusiastic rimfire shooter for 29+ years, and have been hand loading about 8. (.223, .204R, .243, 17 Hornet...about to add 45/70 :) ) Rimfire accuracy is a bit of an elusive thing when you can't control one of the key ingredients=ammo. Tiny groups @ 100 yards using 22LR are elusive at the best of times, but from what I've seen/experienced...rely on perfect conditions, a top-tier rifle, primo ammo and a very capable shooter behind it. Take away 1, let alone 2 of those elements and your target opens-up significantly. An RPR running CCI SV would be allot of fun, but not equal to the task or at least, HIGHLY unlikely it would be.

Ultimately, it's not about what the community "believes", rather, that I don't think you grasp that a 10 shot group includes all 10 holes on the paper~good or bad. I wouldn't be discouraged though, rimfire accuracy is a fun thing to pursue, so stay at it..maybe run some snazzier ammo through and see what happens. SK Standard (in my rifles) performs like more consistent CCI SV, but SK Rifle Match is when things start getting interesting. (about $10-$12/50) If you really need to fast-track towards small rimfire groups @ 100 yards, look for a CZ 452 in 17HMR. One of the two smallest groups I've ever shot came from one of those, shooting Hornady 20gr HPs. Just a lazer of a gun, and THE only one I regret selling to this day.
 
Longboat said:
5/10 are less than half inch with conditions that require wind call. Not sure how you don't see it in the pic? First pic has 7/10 less than .7 in breeze. Yeah 3 changed POI. Not sure why.

Not sure why it is so hard to believe that in absolutely zero wind the gun will hold about the size of a dime at 100? Indoors with no external factors the gun could do it.

When I said dime sized originally I didn't measure. I just remember shooting 3 ten shot groups last fall and saying holy sh*t those are dime sized which they were very close to.

Sorry for the misinformation as a dime is .709 I now see. So maybe the groups were .75 MOA.

Anyone here goes to the Stittsville Shooting Range DM me and you can see it for yourself.

Commence degrading me lol...
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Then I hope to see you there. I'll look for the other RPR. My buddy sports one as well I can I honestly say it was more accurate than I was expecting with CCI SV. Normally quite a few 5 shot .5 groups at 50 yards. Having shot it myself I would say very difficult to believe using cci sv to put 10 into .5 by anyone on any day even rested front and rear with the best optics.

Stittsville is a notoriously windy range however I do not shoot in the winter so maybe that's the time to head down.


On topic, not a bad idea to try with your Savage mk2 HB first.
 
jckstrthmghty said:
Then I hope to see you there. I'll look for the other RPR. My buddy sports one as well I can I honestly say it was more accurate than I was expecting with CCI SV. Normally quite a few 5 shot .5 groups at 50 yards. Having shot it myself I would say very difficult to believe using cci sv to put 10 into .5 by anyone on any day even rested front and rear with the best optics.

Stittsville is a notoriously windy range however I do not shoot in the winter so maybe that's the time to head down.


On topic, not a bad idea to try with your Savage mk2 HB first.
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I think i am going to give the savage mkii a try first.One of the posters in this thread was jerry from mystic precision, and he said he has used one with success.From what i can tell he is a hell of a good shooter,so maybe i bed the savage in a boyds stock and get out and shoot and shoot some more,till its the gun holding me back and not my skills.
 
If it weren’t for my Mk2 Savages being so accurate, I wouldn’t tolerate their ugliness. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If beauty in a 22 is judged by its accuracy, my MK2s are super hot beauty queens.
 
jckstrthmghty said:
Then I hope to see you there. I'll look for the other RPR. My buddy sports one as well I can I honestly say it was more accurate than I was expecting with CCI SV. Normally quite a few 5 shot .5 groups at 50 yards. Having shot it myself I would say very difficult to believe using cci sv to put 10 into .5 by anyone on any day even rested front and rear with the best optics.

Stittsville is a notoriously windy range however I do not shoot in the winter so maybe that's the time to head down.


On topic, not a bad idea to try with your Savage mk2 HB first.
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Im going to try and make it out tomorrow but probobly not in time to compete. I want to try some better ammo and get some DOPE on it. Plus I have no idea about the shooting format. Good time for me to at least check things out. But the RPR 22 will be there either way. Hopefully Will has some match ammo of some sort in hand. Apparently I can do alot better than CCI.

I have a new 338 LM I want to get broken in and fire form some brass too. And hopefully have some decent loads developed for it before the end of April. I will be the tall guy making obnoxious noise lol...
 
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Longboat said:
I'm 42 and have been shooting over 30 years. And sticking to what I said. My pic with 7/10 in the small group I had done 3 times in a row last fall with no fliers. Yesterday 3/10 went out if the group. My uglier group yesterday was pretty windy. But still got half the shots within .490

It was probobly over half MOA yeah and maybe barely larger than a dime last fall. I didn't expect all hell to break loose because I said .5 by memory without measuring when maybe it was maybe more like .75. The RPR still kind of blew my mind either way. Didn't expect anything like that.

I only keep targets filed I do load development on.

Don't care who believes it and who doesn't. Makes absolutely no difference to anything at all.
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The trudeau double down eh? You think your fooling anyone?
 
Oh just let it go... I just LOL'd when my custom rifle shot a number of 5-shot groups over 1/2" at 50 yards today, and thought to myself "ya know, this rifle holds 1/4" all day... if I discount those 2-3 flyers" :d

It don't matter how many a rifle will put through one hole, it matters where that flier goes... THAT is how accurate your rifle really is. 'Nuff said.
 
Longboat said:
Im going to try and make it out tomorrow but probobly not in time to compete. I want to try some better ammo and get some DOPE on it. Plus I have no idea about the shooting format. Good time for me to at least check things out. But the RPR 22 will be there either way. Hopefully Will has some match ammo of some sort in hand. Apparently I can do alot better than CCI.

I have a new 338 LM I want to get broken in and fire form some brass too. And hopefully have some decent loads developed for it before the end of April. I will be the tall guy making obnoxious noise lol...
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My apologies. I didn't realize there was an event this past Saturday. I would've come down to at least shake your hand. Hope the match went well for you. I'm a fair weather shooter for the most part. Best I do is rain.
 
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