Explain Remington 700's to me?

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I have had two now, and althou they are very accurate I just do not like them that much.
There are way nicer handling guns out there, Browning A-bolt and Winchester Mod 70 comes to mind and also Ruger 77's.
Not only do they not handle nice they look cheap.
I just can't figgure out why they have such a huge following, can someone explain it to me?
 
For 50 years there was the small block chevrolet, and thats all!(remington)
Then the world caught up, and thats the rest!(savage).
 
I think the 700 has such a strong following, because your dad had one, or your uncle had one, and it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. In the real world, Joe hunter doesn't care about actions, ballistics or bullet expansion. He wants a gun to kill a deer. If he was told the 700 was the best gun out there, he'll probably belive it. Than when he gets to the gunstore, he is overwhelmed with whats available. As a defensive move, he demands a Remington 700, because "I hear this is the best gun out there"

When it comes down to it, it was a good one. As was the 70, 77, and 110. They all did their job, and were all capable of so much more. But most guys just don't care. In years past, classic lines, wood stocks and blued metal sold guns. Now, open any catalauge. Rifles are so space aged looking, it's sad. But they appeal to the new age gun buyer who was raised on video games and movies. They don't want 'old' guns, they want cool. And remington is the strongest company through the gate in that respect. In a way, they sold out. And if it keeps them alive, (Read Winchester) so be it. There are no Remington rifles in my safe. Nor are there any tactical, plastic wannabe's. Instead, my safe is comfortable with classic versions of the real best gun out there...Hunting rifles.
 
One big thing that gave the Remmy a jumpstart was the intro of their 7mm Mag in the early sixties. And when hunters wanted new bolt rifles, they weren't impressed with the redesigned Win 70, and flocked to the snazzy new 700. There was little else in the mid-priced bolt field. Savage 110's were generally cheap-looking, Brownings and Weatherbys were expensive, and Ruger hadn't started building the 77, so riflemen kind of split into two main camps...Remmy and Winchester.
Add to this that Remington chambered their very accurate rifle in lots of different cartridges, branched out into specialty models....they marketed well and built a great product. Although I hear lots of rumours about their quality control, I think their design holds up very well after 45 years.
 
well if it makes you feel better i hate remington with a passion especially anything semiauto and i have first hand experience with 9 remingtons and 7 of the ones i have encounterd are no better than a norinco maybe just bad luck,
 
I have owned probably 125 Remingtons, starting with the old 721/722/725's and then 700's. For my bucks, they are hard to beat, but tastes vary, and some hate them as much as I love them. Usually very accurate or easy to make so, I prefer the "Classic" stock design and the mountain rifle design is next. Never cared much for the BDL since it never felt just "right" in my hands. I owned one Semiauto, an old 740, that worked ok, but was fussy about clean. Not a reloaders dream either. Sold it off in 1965, and never looked at another Semiauto centerfire rifle. I know, I know, there are probably some fairly decent designs out there, but they leave me cold. Please don't send any single spaced 5 page letters telling me the error of my ways. LOL. :D I still prefer beautiful wood and deep blue over any other combination, but recognize the advantage of stainless/synthetic in bad weather, so I have a Remmy like that also (only one though!) It is one of the most accurate AND cosmopolitan rifles I have ever owned. Chambered in 30-06, it averaged .74 moa for the last 25 - 3 shot groups fired out of it. This included 150, 165, 168, 180 and 200 grain bullets (no Match bullets, mostly Partitions)
That is one of the reasons I keep buying Remington 700's. The last new one I purchased, a Classic in 8x57 regularly shoots around 3/4" with loads it likes, sometimes it surprises me and 3 will cluster into ½" My Classic in 300 Savage is THE most accurate hunting weight rifle I have ever seen, with a recent 3-shot group measuring .040" Center to center. That's the kind of stuff that many have found about the 700, and the word gets out. Has quality slipped a bit recently? Probably, but I had a well known gunsmith rebarrel a 721 a couple of years ago, and he said it had receiver to barrel threads that were absolutely terrible (not straight), so there has always been a few rifles that missed the boat when it came to quality control. The fact is, the bad ones are not only Remingtons, but also ___________ (just type in any rifle name here) I just hope the new Remington owner conglomerate does not screw things up royally. Regards, Eagleye
 
Why,
I think because there is no much to improve with this design. They shoot very good out of the box, the trigger is not bad and can be improved safely down to 3lbs, it is quite easy to install box magazine if required.
Also, there are so many after market parts to play with.

I always compare model 700 to M1911A1, same legend, same following. ;)
 
i have liked them, i have owned weatherby,win mod 70, sako, no savages i thought they were ugly, i think they are as good as any, and i think we each have our reason what we like, would you like them more if they cost more? haaaaa , wade
 
The 700s 21/22s/25s/ ,,,, 700s has been the back bone of the Big game hunting sports in North America since the beginnig of the Bolt action rifle was on the market.
Why
There accurate
There dependable
There Re-sellable
There marketable
There affordable
And After owning 30 or so bolt action remington rifles they never let me down

Allows a blue coller worker the privelage of owning a decent quality rifle that will last a life time.

If you keep your personel opinions out of it and look at the facts, how can you say anything to bad about the 700 rifle? Yes your entitled to oppinion, and yes there not my favourite rifle or the best looking , or ect.... on and on
but they shoot staright, they work!
I own many other bolt action rifles that are supposed to be supperior to the 700, maybe they are but in the field I have seen little difference other that scratching 3000.00 dollar rifle vs a 650.00 one?
 
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Boer seun said:
I have had two now, and althou they are very accurate I just do not like them that much.
There are way nicer handling guns out there, Browning A-bolt and Winchester Mod 70 comes to mind and also Ruger 77's.
Not only do they not handle nice they look cheap.
I just can't figgure out why they have such a huge following, can someone explain it to me?
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When they first were introduced and for many, many years it was the most accurate and the strongest mass produced rifle made. 700 actions used to build a Benchrest rifles dominated Benchrest shooting for years until custom actions became more popular.

Today it still is one of the most accurate actions to use for building an accurate rifle and it still is the strongest, safest mass produced action made... That is when the extractor system has not been altered. The three rings of steel concept on the 700 design is sound.

They are very easy to work on, they have one of the best triggers, there are more after market products for for the 700 than any other rifle.

They have made millions of them and they are not that expensive.
 
To find the reason Remington got such as large share of the market, I think we need to look back to 1964. Up until that time the Model 70 Winchester was "The rifleman's Rifle", and if anyone (including the US Military) wanted a bolt action rifle they bought a M-70. In some years the M-70's came out pretty rough, not unlike the CZ rifles before they got into the North American market, but this did not appear to deter sales. Then in what was possibly the worst conceived move in the history of firearms marketing, the geniuses as Winchester decided that if they could cut the cost of building the rifle they would make more profit. The trouble with that plan was that people (including the US Military) had to continue to buy the product for those profits to be realized. Military trials quickly proved the new M-70 had a weak extractor, and they quickly dropped the M-70 and adopted Remington's M-700 for sniper work in SE Asia. The shooting public followed suit, in those days Ruger had a stock of nice design but cheap looking wood and a poor trigger you couldn't do anything about. From then on Winchester was on a downward slide they never recovered from.

Despite inroads made by Savage, Ruger, and some European manufacturers, Remington has stayed true to the concept of a strong accurate rifle with a simple bolt and an adjustable trigger. Their stock design has remained conservative, but has followed innovations that consumers have clammored for. Remington has been careful to draw a definite line between the M-700 and their cheaper rifles, that have usually been brought out with a different model number.
 
When they first were introduced and for many, many years it was the most accurate and the strongest mass produced rifle made. 700 actions used to build a Benchrest rifles dominated Benchrest shooting for years until custom actions became more popular.

Today it still is one of the most accurate actions to use for building an accurate rifle and it still is the strongest, safest mass produced action made... That is when the extractor system has not been altered. The three rings of steel concept on the 700 design is sound.

They are very easy to work on, they have one of the best triggers, there are more after market products for for the 700 than any other rifle.

They have made millions of them and they are not that expensive.


Yup! That about says it.
Even when you look at the custom actions in Bench Rest you'll see they are take offs of the 700 in one way or another.
The factory trigger on my .243 V is safe @ 20oz. It is easy to find very acurate loads with all weights of bullets I have tried from 55 to 85 gr. With that rifle I have shot my smallest ever group. .156" 3 shot. Yes .156 not 1.56 like you'll often see from the OTHERS;)
Dozens of sub .5 groups with various bullets and powders have made this rifle the King of The Hay Field and convinces me these are fine rifles indeed
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