At what point does precision shooting become indirect fire.

Love the comments...one guy points out the obvious, and the fan boys start to loose it.

That's left me a little curious, what would be the distance that one could reliably hit for arguments sake a 1 meter circle? I'm not talking a cold bore shot, but limit shots to get on target to 2-3.
 
Love the comments...one guy points out the obvious, and the fan boys start to loose it.

That's left me a little curious, what would be the distance that one could reliably hit for arguments sake a 1 meter circle? I'm not talking a cold bore shot, but limit shots to get on target to 2-3.

I think you would need to qualify what cartridge you want to discuss.... and if you are talking "any Sunday" or when winds are favorable.

For simplicity, how about a 308 win FTR rifle? I would say 1 mile on a 1 meter target would be pretty straightforward on "any Sunday".

For a larger 6.5, 7mm, 30cal and assuming the bullets would go subsonic, 2000yds would be quite doable.

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Add more horsepower and the distances could move out incrementally. Of course, the level of wind would play a huge role on what was doable.

But it would be fun...

Jerry

FYI... the first clearing treeline at the top is around 2000yds... the clearing to the right is actually a hill behind and at least another 2000yds more.

I am only going to guess that the clearings you see on the upper right are into the 5 to 6000yds range. BUT, this is SWAG as I haven't been able to get there and GPS range. Unfortunately, these roads were deactivated last fall.... but there will be new clearings to find.

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Depending on terrain, 5000 to 6000yds is still line of sight.

Jerry
 

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When you need to use a firing table or computer program to determine your elevation and azimuth because you can't see the target, you are engaged in indirect fire.
 
Indirect fire with machine guns became a science in WWI. Good use of accurate ballistic tables and a spotter made it fairly straightforward. Wasn't exactly precision shooting with a machine gun...

I read an interesting book about it last year but can't remember the name or author unfortunately.
 
It's not a precision shooting, IMHO. There were 23 shots on the target and the 22nd shot struck the plate. And that's it! Would like to see a group of five continuous hits and unedited video. Then it can be called precision shooting. This would be no different than hitting a 12" target at 1000 meters with a 22. Yes it can be done but without any reliability.
 
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Additionally, for comfort and added stability, Phillips was using the Crosstac Precision Long Range shooting mat. The mat is lightweight, carries bipod accessories and is easy to fold up for storage. It's also wider than most options, and in the words of Phillips himself the Crosstac mat is "very comfortable."

They forgot to tell me where I can buy it, I’m disappointed! :rolleyes:

(Oh, there was a link)

“See this thar shooting mat. It was used by Paul Phillips. Who is Paul Phillips? He dem shot 3.5 miles. He be my hero so I’d have dun bought de same mat”

I couldn’t help it, sorry. lol
 
They forgot to tell me where I can buy it, I’m disappointed! :rolleyes:

(Oh, there was a link)

“See this thar shooting mat. It was used by Paul Phillips. Who is Paul Phillips? He dem shot 3.5 miles. He be my hero so I’d have dun bought de same mat”

I couldn’t help it, sorry. lol

Hahahaha! Some shoot for fun, some for profit. I'm not quite sure why, but it seems your reply put it into my head to listen to Brainwash Me, by Gong. If your up for a little Psychedelic weirdness in the morning search for it on YouTube...the album cover is quite disturbing.

As for the 1 meter circle, I suppose I should have been a bit more specific, but I got the answer I was half expecting. In the end gear, and weather dictate what's possible.
 
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