Norinco Ethics (copyrights)?

Personally though, I could care a less about Chinese firearms policy. If they want to sell us cheap guns and ammo made by slaves, then whatever, I'll still take 2 of each. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone guys.. Canada and the US are hardly innocent when it comes to the ethics of human rights and mega corporations.

It's a dog eat dog world and if it requires that I use cheap Chinese guns and ammo to keep myself from getting eaten, then so be it.
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+1 for me too. Anyone wanna sell their Norcs??
 
Different said:
All of the Poly Technologies marked M14 receivers were affected by the influence of Smith Enterprise, Inc.
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Business is business. The patents have expired long time ago. Anyone can make a M14 or M16.

Colt didn't play patent game well. Or they can block the sale of M14 in Canada or US. Just have a look what happened to RIM you will know how powerful a patent strategy can be.

Talking about RIM, the proud Canadian company, they just start selling Blackberry in China, yes, the Red China. The business is very good and they are looking into billions of $$$.
 
cancer said:
"...talk about getting off topic. The thread started on negligence of patent rights and skipped right onto satellites and the invasion of North America!..."
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I agree ...these 'satellite/invasion' thread diversions - entertaining as they may be - are becoming far too frequent and must stop.

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Anything with the Norc trademark on it has zero collection value. Just browse through EE any day and you know what I am talking about.

You can spin it all you want. But if it is not from a US contractor, it is not a real M14, AR or 1911.
 
sf said:
Anything with the Norc trademark on it has zero collection value. Just browse through EE any day and you know what I am talking about.

You can spin it all you want. But if it is not from a US contractor, it is not a real M14, AR or 1911.
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Norincos are for shooting, not to be kept as safe queens.
 
If you don't buy foreign, your likely sitting on a stump of Canadian pine, wearing hemp clothes (but still typing on a computer built with asian parts). You can't get away from it. Clothes, cars, electronics, and almost every other daily item is foreign produced. Rant against it all you want. I'm a realist and will buy a quality item from whoever wants to sell it to me cheapest. All the rest is fluff and posturing.

Like the union autoworkers down here, with the magnets saying "Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign"........stuck on the back of their Mexican built Dodge, made with Japanese parts.;)
 
I'm a function over form kinda guy.

If anyone's conscience is bothering them over owning Norinco firearms, I'll buy your very good condition M-305's, HP9-1's and NP-29's for $100 each.
 
sf said:
Anything with the Norc trademark on it has zero collection value. Just browse through EE any day and you know what I am talking about.

You can spin it all you want. But if it is not from a US contractor, it is not a real M14, AR or 1911.
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The only REAL M14s were select fire. The current American made (ie Springfield Armory) rifles are knockoffs as well.
 
I have no problems buying Norinco firearms and ammunition.

Politically, I am of the opinion that it's in the best interest of Canada to pursue a policy of political and economic engagement with China, not a policy of isolation and antagonism, so I am not engaging in a personal boycott of Chinese products.

Like most of you, I would happily buy made in Canada firearms instead of foreign ones...however as that is almost impossible, it does not really seem like a patriotic action to buy a Yugo SKS over a Chinese one, so I will buy whatever offshore firearm I want without feeling un Canadian.

Re the patent issue...I know nothing about patent/trademark law, however I guess I am just going to take it on faith that since Colt and Springfield Armouries are not freaking out about these patent issues, I don't need to either.
 
just remember, with every norinco firearm you get the melted down remnants of a dissident as the packing grease :) :)

and hey, melted down hotwheels have to have an afterlife to....
 
greentips said:
The thing ironic about buying a Norinco M14 is more like the "slap in the face". It is the grand statement made to our disregard of originality which is completely based on price point - the Walmart "consumerism". No matter how people justify, they will award those who copy to save a few bucks - just like buying pirated DVDs. THis sad truth leads to the poisonous pet food and lead containing toys in the recent scandals - becasue we want cheap things from a land where no one cares other than money. To add insult to injury, the M14 and AR15 are service rifles of the free world in the last 50+ years, and that buying a knock-off of these rifles from a capitalistic one party dictatorship is the ultimate sell-out and slap in the face in my opinion- an utmost disrespect to those who spend sleepless nights on designing these weapons to defeat communism and to defend democracy.
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this statement completely counters what democracy and capitalism are.
 
"...Colt didn't play patent game well. Or they can block the sale of..." Colt had nothing to do with the M14.
China has never worried about patent or copyright laws. Even when either are still in force.
Neither did the U.S. government. They 'leased' the patent for the short stroke gas system(M1 carbine) from Winchester then refused to give it back after W.W. II.
 
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