Very Disappointed with Norc NP29

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ChiliDawg

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The accuracy of this firearm is horrible. I could not get a tighter group than 18 inches at 25 yards and about 75% of the rounds tumbled. I didn't expect a tack driver, but it should be better than that. That is the last Norc, I will ever buy.
 
That is most unusual. Hopefully you bought the pistol from Marstar. Their guarantee would be helpful. Exactly what is wrong with the barrel? Crown? Bore?
 
ChiliDawg said:
The accuracy of this firearm is horrible. I could not get a tighter group than 18 inches at 25 yards and about 75% of the rounds tumbled. I didn't expect a tack driver, but it should be better than that. That is the last Norc, I will ever buy.
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Hate to say it but you get what you pay for. Spend the extra and get a brand name Pistol by a Manufacturer like Glock, Sig, HK, Steyr, Smith & Wesson, Ruger and never look back.
 
No. A rough bore would foul badly, but shoudn't cause wild shooting or keyholing. What ammunition are you using?
 
Vey unusual indeed. If purchased from Marstar, let them know as it sounds like you either have a bad gun or your ammo is crap. While some may poo-poo Norinco and say I told u so, they are for the most part a pretty good gun and some are exceptional shooters. Something is odd there, and I think it sounds more like ammo if theres keyholing.
Good luck with it
dB:)
 
I suggest you try a couple more different ammo types and if that doesn't help, have a gunsmith inspect it before you condemn the gun and its manufacturer and send it back.
 
Keyholing ammo in norc

I have a NP40. Was loading a Lee TL 175g SWC over a high powder charge & it keyholed like crazy, although accuracy wasnt too bad. I reduced powder charge & it works fine. Friend recently bought a S&W MP in .40, couldn't get a group to save his soul. A few of us tried the gun & shot quite well. So a more experienced shooter gave him some pointers and all of a sudden he started to get groups. I would definately try different a few different loads,
bullet style, size, weight & cases all have a major impact on accuracy. Hope this will help.
 
ChiliDawg said:
The accuracy of this firearm is horrible. I could not get a tighter group than 18 inches at 25 yards and about 75% of the rounds tumbled. I didn't expect a tack driver, but it should be better than that. That is the last Norc, I will ever buy.
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Tell us more about your NP-29.... did you buy it new? Tell us about the ammo you are using? Reloads? Factory? Bullet weight, type, velocity rating etc.

You're right it should do better than 18" at 25 yards... I've got one that I'm very pleased with, however. Shoots very well and on par or better with any other 9mm I've ever owned and that's a few in going on 30 years of pistol shooting.

However, if you're soured on Norcs sent me a PM. Maybe we can work something out... ;):D
 
I bought it new in January from Marstar. I have only shot reloads through it. Cast and Plated 121gr RN over W231. Plated bullets work better also and I have found it likes faster ammo.
 
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Here we go again, another Norc bashing thread???
My buddy and I both own NP-40's.
We both shoot reloads. His cast, mine copper plated. His W231, mine with Titegroup. Both pistols are super accurate and would hold their own against any CZ original.
I also own a Norc SKS-D, it too shoots very respectable groups with the original iron sights. I will take it deer hunting this fall without any reserve whatsoever.
So lets try to be objective. 18" groups at 25 yds demands a close analysis. There is either a very severe problem with the pistol, or the shooter needs some coaching.
I am satisfied enuff with Norcs to have ordered a NP-18 from Marstar last week.
More often than not, the problem lies with the shooter.
 
CHILLIDAWG;
Well this is most unusual, please try some other ammo, perhaps allow a friend to shoot it....
If not satisfied return it to us.... After all thats' why you bought it from us....
John
 
If you are shooting reloads and the bullets are tumbling ,it is probably the loads are not fast enough to stabilize the bullet. How many grains of 231 are you using. You should be getting better groups but on the other hand no NORINCO is a BULLSEYE target PISTOL, even though some people can get pretty good groups when they find a load their gun likes..
 
Griffoneur said:
Here we go again, another Norc bashing thread???
My buddy and I both own NP-40's.
We both shoot reloads. His cast, mine copper plated. His W231, mine with Titegroup. Both pistols are super accurate and would hold their own against any CZ original.
I also own a Norc SKS-D, it too shoots very respectable groups with the original iron sights. I will take it deer hunting this fall without any reserve whatsoever.
So lets try to be objective. 18" groups at 25 yds demands a close analysis. There is either a very severe problem with the pistol, or the shooter needs some coaching.
I am satisfied enuff with Norcs to have ordered a NP-18 from Marstar last week.
More often than not, the problem lies with the shooter.
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Tell us how you like the NP18 when you get it.
 
ChiliDawg said:
I am an experienced bullseye shooter for over 25 years. Just made Master class this year.
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If that is the case, then there is either a severe problem with the pistol or you have to tweak your reloads. An 18" grouping at 25 yds. is not normal, even for a lowly Norc!

Try different loads. If you can't get a satisfactry grouping, then send the pistol back to Marstar. They should make it right.

If 18" groups was typical performance for a NP-29, Marstar would not be selling too many of them, regardless of how low a price they may have. It would not be acceptable by anyones standards. I wouldn't pay $50 for a pistol with crappy grouping, and I wouldn't expect you to either. Logical analysis will bring you to a solution.

Let us know when you find the "bug".
 
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