PAL Wait Time
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Congrats on getting your number and correct expiry year. Sounds like my birth month has caused me to get less value out of my $60 than you. I'm assuming you've already had a birthday this year... Or maybe it's because my application was dated 2018...
Happy shopping...
Okay guys/gals, it is possible I'm losing it again today (or day 165). Below is the letter I've drafted for my MP. I will be dropping this off in person today. Am I off my rails?
Dear Mr. McGuinty,
I need an explanation as to why the government sees it reasonable to take 6+ months to permit someone to purchase firearms. I signed up for the mandatory Canadian Firearm Safety Course CFSC November 2nd, 2018 and I am still waiting for my permit. I’ve missed fall deer hunting season, grouse hunting season, winter rabbit hunting season and now I’m about to miss spring turkey. I’ve missed all the black Friday and Christmas sales. I’ve even watched the prices on guns I’ve been wanting to buy go up with 2019 inflation or get discontinued from the lineup. I understand that guns are dangerous and have a negative opinion with a percentage of the uninformed public but we hunters are part of society too. How does putting us through this long a waiting period help Canadians? I’ve only got a fixed number of good hunting years left in me and a very small number of years left to create cherished life memories with my dad. This ridiculously long process has already unnecessarily cut out one of my few remaining hunting years.
Here is my suggestion. The minimum 28-day waiting period is obviously not necessary (I am over 165 days and still waiting). Change the minimum 28-day waiting period to a validated minimum 28-days between CFSC start date and PAL licence mailed out date. This leaves lots of room for negotiation since the process is currently taking over 6 months (so far…).
It is my understanding that hunters and firearm owners favour the conservative government when it comes to their hunting, shooting interests. Perhaps this could be an opportunity for the Liberal government to win back some of the otherwise conservative voting hunter/shooter demographic…
Feel free to copy/edit and mail to your local MP...I need an explanation as to why the government sees it reasonable to take 6+ months to permit someone to purchase firearms. I signed up for the mandatory Canadian Firearm Safety Course CFSC November 2nd, 2018 and I am still waiting for my permit. I’ve missed fall deer hunting season, grouse hunting season, winter rabbit hunting season and now I’m about to miss spring turkey. I’ve missed all the black Friday and Christmas sales. I’ve even watched the prices on guns I’ve been wanting to buy go up with 2019 inflation or get discontinued from the lineup. I understand that guns are dangerous and have a negative opinion with a percentage of the uninformed public but we hunters are part of society too. How does putting us through this long a waiting period help Canadians? I’ve only got a fixed number of good hunting years left in me and a very small number of years left to create cherished life memories with my dad. This ridiculously long process has already unnecessarily cut out one of my few remaining hunting years.
Here is my suggestion. The minimum 28-day waiting period is obviously not necessary (I am over 165 days and still waiting). Change the minimum 28-day waiting period to a validated minimum 28-days between CFSC start date and PAL licence mailed out date. This leaves lots of room for negotiation since the process is currently taking over 6 months (so far…).
It is my understanding that hunters and firearm owners favour the conservative government when it comes to their hunting, shooting interests. Perhaps this could be an opportunity for the Liberal government to win back some of the otherwise conservative voting hunter/shooter demographic…
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Icebane.
If you want action rather than just an explanation, I suggest you revise your letter because your very first sentence asks for an explanation. An explanation is the last thing you want. You will end up with a very long winded story of how your wonderful parliamentarian and overworked government officials are trying hard to serve the nation.
Start your letter with "I need your help urgently". Then explain your problem only. Leave out any suggestions regarding policy, rules, procedures etc. Do include your personal story (hunting season family memories etc) Ask him to take specific actions on your behalf. "Please request the CFO for current status of my application and expected approval date."
Give your phone number, and number and date of the application and any other info that they can use to track down your case.
Keep it as short as possible so he can mark it to his personal staff for immediate action.
Hope it helps
If you want action rather than just an explanation, I suggest you revise your letter because your very first sentence asks for an explanation. An explanation is the last thing you want. You will end up with a very long winded story of how your wonderful parliamentarian and overworked government officials are trying hard to serve the nation.
Start your letter with "I need your help urgently". Then explain your problem only. Leave out any suggestions regarding policy, rules, procedures etc. Do include your personal story (hunting season family memories etc) Ask him to take specific actions on your behalf. "Please request the CFO for current status of my application and expected approval date."
Give your phone number, and number and date of the application and any other info that they can use to track down your case.
Keep it as short as possible so he can mark it to his personal staff for immediate action.
Hope it helps
Yeah, no you have misunderstood me or I've failed to communicate my intentions. I've already given up on mine. It is already way, way too unreasonably late. Another month wouldn't make a difference... This ridiculous process needs to be improved for all of us. Any suggestions on how to do that?
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Okay. I wrote a new one over lunch. Better? Worse?
Dear Mr. McGuinty,
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Firearms Licence Services division is failing to serve Canadians under your Liberal government. If the Liberals are wondering why all hunters/shooters across Canada are voting blue it is because of our love for our sport/activity and what the Liberals have done to abolish it. Where is my permit? How many more times will I be told to wait another 2-3 weeks. I paid for my course 6 months ago… I am very sorry to waste your time with this diminutive matter but perhaps if whomever is providing this service cared as much we would not be here. Tell Justin I just want the freedom to be able to smoke a joint and shoot my own meat like our forefathers… Maybe then he’ll action this issue.
My PAL# is 1######.0001 Please find out where it is and why after over 165 days, I’ve heard nothing from them (with the exception of them charging my credit card over a month ago).
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police Firearms Licence Services division is failing to serve Canadians under your Liberal government. If the Liberals are wondering why all hunters/shooters across Canada are voting blue it is because of our love for our sport/activity and what the Liberals have done to abolish it. Where is my permit? How many more times will I be told to wait another 2-3 weeks. I paid for my course 6 months ago… I am very sorry to waste your time with this diminutive matter but perhaps if whomever is providing this service cared as much we would not be here. Tell Justin I just want the freedom to be able to smoke a joint and shoot my own meat like our forefathers… Maybe then he’ll action this issue.
My PAL# is 1######.0001 Please find out where it is and why after over 165 days, I’ve heard nothing from them (with the exception of them charging my credit card over a month ago).
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License issued!!! Whoop whoop
Mar 15 RCMP received application
April 09 CC charged "in process" appears online
April 17 License issued!
Now to wait for the actual card.
Called & got my number. She told me they're backed up with printing & to call back in a month if I haven't received it.
FYI Ontario app, no boxes checked
Mar 15 RCMP received application
April 09 CC charged "in process" appears online
April 17 License issued!
Now to wait for the actual card.
Called & got my number. She told me they're backed up with printing & to call back in a month if I haven't received it.
FYI Ontario app, no boxes checked
Oh boy, yes better.
Not much better. Just a bit better.
I would remove all reference to drugs and alcohol though.
... And you don't want to shoot your own meat. It might show a propensity for self harm.
How about just waiting a couple of weeks more. Then go to town on the libs.
Ugh this makes me sadmine was received 9 days before you and even my in progress was 9/10 days ahead but still waiting..
Oh man that's frustrating!
I think it all depends on who's desk pile our application ends up in.
I was pretty shocked it was approved so fast considering what some folks are reporting.
I checked this morning & it was still in process.
Checked again this afternoon & it was issued.
Keep your head up xeronine!
Oh man that's frustrating!
I think it all depends on who's desk pile our application ends up in.
I was pretty shocked it was approved so fast considering what some folks are reporting.
I checked this morning & it was still in process.
Checked again this afternoon & it was issued.
Keep your head up xeronine!
You’re probably right! Trying to stay hopefully!
There is a new range opening close to my house in the fall but they think they’re going to have a sign up process in June or July so I’m going to be upset if I miss out on that opportunity!
Here’s to hoping!
You might be able to sign up with the range before you get your card.
Why do say 165 days??
You said the RCMP received it on Feb 8 and your lic issued on Mar 21.
Can't really count the days you took the course & waited for your stamped test results etc.
The printer issue is what's holding things up for you now.
Why not? That was the day I wanted to buy a gun and the government prevented the retailer to sell it to me and this whole process started. Actually, no, you can add a few more days to that number... The printer issue is not acceptable either. If they can’t handle the volume then change print houses... And the stamped test results is another unnecessary way to drag out an already overly long process.
Also I didn’t say the rcmp received it on February 8. They said that. I think they got it a few days before that...
