XCR keymod, ACR NR, Tavor gen 2 shooting...

ACR> XCR> Tar-21.

Mainly because of the stock trigger on each rifle.

The ACR is more inherently accurate due to the NR barrel but the XCR, IMO, has a better trigger. The Tavor loses to both especially in the trigger department.

Have owned the XCR and Tavor and only shot the ACR.
 
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ACR> XCR> Tar-21.

Mainly because of the stock trigger on each rifle.

The ACR is more inherently accurate due to the NR barrel but the XCR, IMO, has a better trigger. The Tavor loses to both especially in the trigger department.

Have owned the XCR and Tavor and only shot the ACR.
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They're all non restricted barrels, what makes the ACR one more accurate?

It's the design of the rifle, nothing else. The ACR has a better barrel retention system and maybe a higher quality factory barrel than the XCR, and the Tavor is handicapped because the barrel has the rest of the rifle attached to it at various points which affects barrel harmonics.
The factory trigger on the XCR may be better than the ACR but the ACR can use AR-15 triggers so for $100 or more you can have a better trigger than the XCR.

OP, if accuracy is your goal you want the ACR but it is about a pound heavier than the quad-rail XCR I had. The newer keymod XCR will be even lighter, especially if you order the light barrel.
The Tavor is also a very well made rifle but the accuracy is not up to an ACR.

I've owned two ACR's, an XCR, and a Tavor. I still own an ACR.
I would suggest that you buy a restricted ACR model that has been converted to NR with a quality aftermarket barrel. My ACR is a little heavier than my old XCR but it's nothing that really makes a difference in the field. You get used to whatever you're carrying.

An even better option these days is to find an ATRS Modern Sporter receiver set or a built rifle on the EE, I just picked up a complete rifle in 6.5 Grendel for less than I paid for my ACR a few years ago. Lighter and just as accurate as the ACR if you buy a quality barrel.
 
cr5 said:
They're all non restricted barrels, what makes the ACR one more accurate?

It's the design of the rifle, nothing else. The ACR has a better barrel retention system and maybe a higher quality factory barrel than the XCR, and the Tavor is handicapped because the barrel has the rest of the rifle attached to it at various points which affects barrel harmonics.
The factory trigger on the XCR may be better than the ACR but the ACR can use AR-15 triggers so for $100 or more you can have a better trigger than the XCR.

OP, if accuracy is your goal you want the ACR but it is about a pound heavier than the quad-rail XCR I had. The newer keymod XCR will be even lighter, especially if you order the light barrel.
The Tavor is also a very well made rifle but the accuracy is not up to an ACR.

I've owned two ACR's, an XCR, and a Tavor. I still own an ACR.
I would suggest that you buy a restricted ACR model that has been converted to NR with a quality aftermarket barrel. My ACR is a little heavier than my old XCR but it's nothing that really makes a difference in the field. You get used to whatever you're carrying.

An even better option these days is to find an ATRS Modern Sporter receiver set or a built rifle on the EE, I just picked up a complete rifle in 6.5 Grendel for less than I paid for my ACR a few years ago. Lighter and just as accurate as the ACR if you buy a quality barrel.
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CR5 wow thankyou for that info it is very informative!!
 
My XCR does not have a good trigger.

You can build a Modern Sporter that is more accurate and cheaper than an XCR.
 
Both my XCR's have very good trigger and with right ammo have no problem with getting 5 round 1/4 in groups and next five end up at 3/4 in both light barrels:)
 
Anytime just get to south eastern SK all at 100 yards and out to 1000 on steel if you guys try to be big time operators and burn the barrels up that's your problem but don't put the tool down because it is no unicorn!
 
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Anytime just get to south eastern SK all at 100 yards and out to 1000 on steel if you guys try to be big time operators and burn the barrels up that's your problem but don't put the tool down because it is no unicorn!
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Those are unicorn rifles, no one else in the history of the XCR has ever reported 1/4 moa from one of these (not with a straight face anyway). They are typically 2-4 moa depending on ammo selection. The one I owned performed just like the rest of the XCR's, it was reliable, was built well, and the ergonomics were great but they are not sub moa rifles.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, these are not precision rifles and were never intended to be. They perform exactly the way they were built to perform. It has nothing to do with people burning barrels, it's just the design of the gun and the low quality factory barrels.

If you got a couple that shoot sub moa then you got the only two XCR's I've ever heard of that can shoot that well. What you have is non-typical, not the norm.
 
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I had an XCR that I recently sold (prior to the Quebec LGR coming into full effect), I shot an ACR before, and I own a Tar-21.

The ACR was the most accurate out of the box. The TAR21 was the worst, but not because of the barrel, but because of the squishy trigger. Once I swapped it out with a Super Sabra trigger pack and Lightning Bow trigger, I found it to be on par with the ACR.

If you're willing to spend a few hundred bucks more on the TAR21, you can get something on par with the ACR in terms of accuracy, while still coming in cheaper than a second hand ACR.
 
I shot both an XCR 1:7 against a ACR 1:7 at 100 yards about 6 months ago.

The ACR was slightly better than the XCR

Where I found the ACR was vastly superior to the XCR was in rapid fire. (with 10 round pistol mags)

Both myself and a buddy spent a couple hundred rounds one day shooting as fast as we could trying to stay on target as much as possible.

Mag after mag, the ACR was the clear winner.

Standing about 20 yards from a chest sized plate, we could easily put all rounds on the plate with the ACR while pulling the trigger as fast as we could.

Doing the same with the XCR might have hit about half the time, at best. It just bounced around and walked all over the place.

In the hand and at slow fire, the XCR seems real nice... it's lighter, but when you kick it into high gear, the ACR runs away with it.

One day Id like to bring an NR AR into such a comparison.
 
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