Cost effective AR 15 (Mostly for the sake of grandfathering)

RangerPark said:
This isn't about the money. This is about trying to ensure my children get to experience firearms the way they were meant to be experienced.
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Except it won't work that way.
My prediction is that even if they do "grandfather" current owners they will stop giving ATT's within 5 years and they will become paperweights and their value will half. You will no longer be allowed to use them and you will not be able to pass them down.

Our only chance is to vote that turd out of office and throw C71 in the trash where it belongs.


Betty-Lou said:
Can you tell us why you believe this the case? I was always under the impression that you could just strip the parts and get rid of the lower.
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In theory yes but I know of a shop that tried that when the RCMP came to seize a customers rifle, I don't know all the particulars but they tried to only hand over a stripped lower and the RCMP said that it was registered as a complete rifle and that if they didn't go get the rest of the parts they were going to get a warrant to search the premises for the rest.
 
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philhut said:
Tenda had Mossberg MMR's for $699 on Boxing day.... then the price rose to $899 by the 27th when I looked again. Such a good deal on a nice rifle. Still the M&P looks nice, one did explode at the range with a shooter who has just bought one and was using some .223 reloads in it. He was a very experienced reloader but may have made a mistake or simply something happened that made the rifle explode (with fortunately know one injured)
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He may have been an experienced reloader but there is a difference between reloading for a bolt action and a semi auto. I see this over and over with all the new owners of non restricted ARish rifles, they're thinking like it's a long range precision bolt action and overloading the action running the heaviest projectiles they think their twist will stabilize and many times using a powder that is not ideal for the gas system which is made worse by too heavy of a projectile.
 
As a follow-up; I ended up getting a used Windham Weaponry locally with 16" (installed) and 20" heavy barrel on the side. I changed the buffer spring to a captive JP to get rid of the pogo stick sound, and changed the trigger out for a Trigger Tech Advanced to restore order to my world view from a bolt action-centric perspective.

Sort of thinking about dressing out the extra barrel in its own upper, perhaps at the risk of spiraling down some AR rabbit-hole. ;)
 
cr5 said:
He may have been an experienced reloader but there is a difference between reloading for a bolt action and a semi auto. I see this over and over with all the new owners of non restricted ARish rifles, they're thinking like it's a long range precision bolt action and overloading the action running the heaviest projectiles they think their twist will stabilize and many times using a powder that is not ideal for the gas system which is made worse by too heavy of a projectile.
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They're also usually the guys who don't think they need to crimp the bullet, because they have good neck tension.
 
Another vote for the Sport 2 here. I was originally going to buy something higher end but a friend convinced me to spend the difference elsewhere and he was right. The rifle is awesome.
 
Victor Simon said:
There won't be a grandfathering.
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Exactly, Even the current grandfathering laws are a joke and 12.X guns are worthless. Best investments ATM is ammo , components, parts to fix the rifles you currently have and a metric #### ton of NR black rifles...

Dogleg said:
Couldn't you just strip it and send in the lower?
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I dont think the RCMP will allow that once they pass new laws since we live in a dictatorship when it comes to firearms.
 
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