ammunition testing on a new 22LR rifle

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Just bought a new rifle (Anschutz 64) and scope (Sightron 36x) and wanted to try out a few brands. Shot two, 10 shot groups at 50m and two 10 shot groups at 100m per brand. Looks like SK Flatnose Basic works well. I included my best target (Eley Club) at 100m . .only five shots so not included in the stats.

Mike

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Nice report, Mike. Maybe you can update w a few pics?
Good choice for a precision 22lr; love the Annie's.
My favourite as well.
What app/program did you use to plot the graph info. Looks good.
Any data on temp and wind?
Great post.
V.
 
Let's see that gun already! :) I love my 64 too, and haven't ventured far from the SK Rifle Match. Late last week, I started looking for the flatnose to test too.
 
Nice report, Mike. Maybe you can update w a few pics?
Good choice for a precision 22lr; love the Annie's.
My favourite as well.
What app/program did you use to plot the graph info. Looks good.
Any data on temp and wind?
Great post.
V.

Thanks! I used Apple Numbers to create the graph, but Excel does the same. The temp was about 60F (16C) with about a 5 mph right to left crosswind, elevation was 4400 ft. I had some excellent groups with CCI Standard Velocity, but then other groups were not consistent, so it moved the average up. But for pure shooting fun and value, it was way up there. I'll try and get a pic of the rifle together, cheers.
 
Thanks! I used Apple Numbers to create the graph, but Excel does the same. The temp was about 60F (16C) with about a 5 mph right to left crosswind, elevation was 4400 ft. I had some excellent groups with CCI Standard Velocity, but then other groups were not consistent, so it moved the average up. But for pure shooting fun and value, it was way up there. I'll try and get a pic of the rifle together, cheers.

Half the fun is seeing what works the best. Yes, I have Excel. Thanks for sharing the rest of the weather info. Looks like it's a decent shooter.
 
My best attempt at a photo .. same setup I used to test .. Remple bipod attached. Many thanks to Jerry at Mystic precision for putting together a bunch of sampler boxes of SK & Lapua for me.

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^beauty!!!! MAN I'd like to try one of those bipods one day. Solid. My 64 sits in their "Tactical Trainer" and I love the thing. I think I could love one of those stocks too! :)
 
Nice pics. Nice 64MPR Annie.
I used to own one of Remple's bipod like yours. Should have kept it. He knows how to build 'em. All makes for a great package.
 
RWS R50 wasn't on the list! I'm pretty sure that's what they shoot their test targets with, my old 64 Match Silhouette loves it.

Just noticed your user name! Do you know Mike from Canmore? he'd be someone to get out shooting with!
 
RWS R50 wasn't on the list! I'm pretty sure that's what they shoot their test targets with, my old 64 Match Silhouette loves it.

I was just looking at that yesterday. They don't give it away that's for sure. I checked Nordic Marksman and Tesro. Any place you could recommend that is reasonably priced, especially shipping?
 
Mike, if you are not weighing your CCI SV, you might want to give it a try. I've been doing it for several years, and despite the nay-sayers and the PITA it is to do it, it has paid off for me in the group results I get with all of my target-grade rifles. I agree that it is probably not going to be competitive with $100 a brick and up ammo, but should give consistently good results without breaking the budget.
 
I was just looking at that yesterday. They don't give it away that's for sure. I checked Nordic Marksman and Tesro. Any place you could recommend that is reasonably priced, especially shipping?

No, LOL..it puts a dent in the wallet that's for sure! I usually just buy a box if I see it at one of my local gun shops..
 
Mike, if you are not weighing your CCI SV, you might want to give it a try. I've been doing it for several years, and despite the nay-sayers and the PITA it is to do it, it has paid off for me in the group results I get with all of my target-grade rifles. I agree that it is probably not going to be competitive with $100 a brick and up ammo, but should give consistently good results without breaking the budget.

I'll give it a go. thanks!
 
I've been doing some ammo testing myself lately, with some interesting results.
I bought a Tikka T1x about a month ago, and have been trying the ammo I had on hand from my CZ 452 Varmint.
The CZ showed good results with RWS Target Rifle, SK Pistol Match and Lapua Center X.
The Tikka, in contrast, shot the RWS TR poorly, the SK PM was a bit better, but the Center X was reminiscent of a shotgun pattern.
The best ammo through the Tikka so far has been CCI SV, SK Biathlon Sport, and Eley Force HV of all things.
My early-in-the-game results seem to indicate that the Tikka prefers higher velocity ammo more than than the CZ does.
I hadn't really considered velocity nodes to be a significant factor in rimfire ammunition, if it proves to be the case it'll be a bit of a breakthrough for me.

It does make the whole lot testing regime make a bit more sense though. No one is going to convince me that Eley, RWS and Lapua deliberately make some lots "better" than others, or that quality control is that bad on true match ammo.
I might believe that they deliberately make some lots slightly faster or slower than others, knowing full well that by doing this there's a better chance of at least one lot being outstanding in a given rifle.
There might be other subtle differences, such as seating depth, crimp force, etc.

My plan now is to run the different types of ammo over a chronograph to try to find a correlation between velocity and accuracy in that rifle.
The trouble with HV ammo is that most of it is designed for hunting or simply to cycle semi-auto pistols and rifles, with accuracy being a secondary concern.
Some of it is sketchy enough that you can hear that one round is supersonic and the next isn't, American Eagle for instance. I shot some of it through a Marlin semi-auto rifle and gave up on it for that reason. Almost as bad as Winchester Wildcat.
Testing the Eley HV and some of the SK/Lapua HV offerings over a chrono will be interesting to see how good it actually is.
The CCI SV at an advertised 1080 fps has been a pleasant surprise at $4.00 per box. It shouldn't be that consistent compared to ammo costing 4 times as much, and the next batch may prove that.
In perspective, I think the Center X I have will shoot consistently poorly through my Tikka, while the CCI may be hot and cold, as the OP saw in his rifle.

The last time I ran CCI SV over a chrono through the CZ the results were surprisingly good, as I recall. Not so much accuracy as extreme spread and standard deviation, the CZ shot it into decent but not outstanding groups, however the velocity numbers were pretty good.
If I could get that performance reliably, it'd be a hel* of a sleeper.
 
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