case colour: who is in favour of redoing?

The unobtanium are things like antimony trichloride or mercuric chloride without being an institution. Nitric acid being expensive and hard to find. Lead is illegal in consumer products as well but is critical to original finishes, though cobalt does a good job.

The eye of newt and hair of virgin has a purpose that can't really be replicated. There's definite science behind the old methods. Even recipes calling for specific resins like Canada Balsam or Venice Turpentine or whatever are important as the chemical makeup of the resin is different. Higher or lower acid content, stuff like that. Different ph at different temps. Different manufacturing methods with things like turpentine, linseed oil, etc.
 
Dogfish, I know a few of our fellow enthusiasts have been good naturedly goofing on you but that was an excellent post, detailing out just how complicated doing a completely authentic restoration can be. And that’s just the CCH! More than most have the stomach for.
 
No problem. I find it interesting.

As an fyi, my records show a new set of barrels refit by H&H in 1876 as worth just shy of $5000 CAD today's money, adjusted for inflation.
 
No problem. I find it interesting.

As an fyi, my records show a new set of barrels refit by H&H in 1876 as worth just shy of $5000 CAD today's money, adjusted for inflation.

That's a deal because a new set fitted today would be several multiples of $5000 Cdn.
 
Uh, Alvaro, looks like the Edwinson Green is not coming to Oshawa after all. There is a separate fracture above the blow-out. How would you like to get that in the mail? Surprise!
Changing the lineup.
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Im very sorry to hear. That is very disappointing. Is that dealer going to make it right for you? If I recall correctly, they had quite a few photos on the website. Im assuming it was intentionally left out?
 
It's there in the photos but you would have to have known what you were looking at and where to look. It's kind of a grey area with respect to forum rules since debating/arguing EE transactions is not allowed in the forums. In this case I saw the gun on EE and checked it out and replied via the website. The gun was listed as 2 3/4 inch chambers which it has not, very good condition which it is not, tight lockup which it has not. They have left me hanging since before the weekend pending a discussion they would like to have with the person they bought it from. To me that is irrelevant and take care of your customers first. Their first EE feedback is in the balance.
 
That's too bad John. I would think they will make it right, unless of course they don't care about their reputation. On the other hand, issues like that should have been disclosed, not left up to trying to deduce what the photos are actually showing , or hiding. That's apart from the fact that the gun is not as advertised regarding tight lock up and 2 3/4" chambers.
 
Yes, they seem like good people so expect them to make it right. I don't believe there was an attempt to deceive. Maybe not that familiar with vintage guns.

I think you are being very kind. I’m of the opinion that you dont need to be familiar with vintage guns to know what a cracked and broken stock is, let alone a loose action and incorrect chamber size. We’re talking about a dealer here, not some kid that inherited this from a deceased grandparent and has no clue what they just got. They took that gun in from someone and presumably agreed on a value. They couldnt do all that if they didnt know what they were looking at. And I agree that a conversation with the person they bought it from has zero to do with you and your transaction with them. This all just stinks of very poor etiquette
 
I think you are being very kind. I’m of the opinion that you dont need to be familiar with vintage guns to know what a cracked and broken stock is, let alone a loose action and incorrect chamber size. We’re talking about a dealer here, not some kid that inherited this from a deceased grandparent and has no clue what they just got. They took that gun in from someone and presumably agreed on a value. They couldnt do all that if they didnt know what they were looking at. And I agree that a conversation with the person they bought it from has zero to do with you and your transaction with them. This all just stinks of very poor etiquette

I hate to say it John but I am in agreement here. Deceptive at best. Fraudulent at worst. Although mistakes can be made.

I bought a gun from Joe Salter a few years ago. Despite specifically saying the ejectors worked....the ejectors were broken.....a cracked rod. I brought it to their attention, received an explanation that made sense and was immediately refunded enough (1/4 of the cost of the gun) to cover the cost of repair by a smith of the quality of Nick Makinson or Stelios from SCG. Problems occur....it's how you respond to them that counts. I'd buy from Salter again in a heartbeat.
 
Sorry to see this issue... very disappointing. Not to rain on your parade, but a seller that would misrepresent or not disclose those issues, is also likely to NOT make it right... hope it works out.
 
Additional emails from me a day apart. Crickets....

Lets let this thread serve as notice to the rest of the community about the dealer in question. I would also escalate this to the moderators seeing that it was posted on the EE and that this is one of their contributing dealers. There was a dealer in the recent past that was booted out of CGN for misrepresentations.

We need to do our best to ensure this dealer either makes it right or faces the music if they decide not to.
 
Londonshooter, is it a further wood crack apart from the blown-out piece, or is the action bar cracked? I’m not sure where to look in your picture.
 
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