paying for access to land

I grew up on a 3 section farm and farmed up untill 15 years ago. Every year same chit , bullet holes in grain bins , fences cut, big ruts in wet land. Our farm was about 25 miles from the city so we would get alot of city hunters out our way. Never a problem with the local boys but some of those city preople were a rare breed of stupid.
The land owner paid for the land and pays taxes on it so if he has the right to grant permission or refuse it. He should also have the right to charge a fee for access if he wants to.
 
In area of Ontario we ask for permission, afterwards we usually share out game with them as a good jester and thank you for being able to hunt on their land.
PLUS we only leave foot prints behind not torn up land (4 wheelers), broken fences or garbage. Thus next time you contact the land owner to hunt his property he most likely to allow you to hunt there.
Basically it's a no brainer for respectful hunters. It only takes one idiot to screw it up for everyone else.
 
r204 said:
I grew up on a 3 section farm and farmed up untill 15 years ago. Every year same chit , bullet holes in grain bins , fences cut, big ruts in wet land. Our farm was about 25 miles from the city so we would get alot of city hunters out our way. Never a problem with the local boys but some of those city preople were a rare breed of stupid.
The land owner paid for the land and pays taxes on it so if he has the right to grant permission or refuse it. He should also have the right to charge a fee for access if he wants to.
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How is charging a fee, going to stop criminals from destroying farm land?
 
Buckmastr said:
Rediculous statement.

Albertans are having a harder and harder time getting access to crown and lease land. I'm not too concerned at kissing someone's ass to hunt their private acreage. Either they are ok with it or not. I'm not stressing them out. And vice versa.
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You should experience it from the other side of the door.
 
RiMP9 said:
In area of Ontario we ask for permission, afterwards we usually share out game with them as a good jester and thank you for being able to hunt on their land.
PLUS we only leave foot prints behind not torn up land (4 wheelers), broken fences or garbage. Thus next time you contact the land owner to hunt his property he most likely to allow you to hunt there.
Basically it's a no brainer for respectful hunters. It only takes one idiot to screw it up for everyone else.
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Best post! Key word: Respect!
 
Buckmastr said:
Rediculous statement.

Albertans are having a harder and harder time getting access to crown and lease land. I'm not too concerned at kissing someone's ass to hunt their private acreage. Either they are ok with it or not. I'm not stressing them out. And vice versa.
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It's possible that Dogleg is suffering PTSD from hunters. Maybe I won't lean on him so harshly.;)
 
track said:
How is charging a fee, going to stop criminals from destroying farm land?
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I never said that.
What I said was a land owner should have the right to do with his land what he wants. It is his or hers land NOT yours , if you want land to hunt on go buy your own or become freinds with a land owner and earn his trust and then maybe he will allow you to use his land.
 
r204 said:
I never said that.
What I said was a land owner should have the right to do with his land what he wants. It is his or hers land NOT yours , if you want land to hunt on go buy your own or become freinds with a land owner and earn his trust and then maybe he will allow you to use his land.
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r204, you did mention "fee." Read my previous posts, I respect land owners immensely, many of them are friends. I have townships of private land to hunt and likewise for anyone else who wishes to hunt. Last year I hunted my mule deer buck on 1.5 townships and never witnessed seeing another hunter. Alberta and Saskatchewan are not like Ontario and Quebec; land here is vast with abundance of game and few hunters. In other words, hunters are needed by farmers to aid in population reduction. Elk, moose and deer greatly reduces crop yield. I've met hundreds of farmers in my lifetime, because I've spend many days scouting for big game and talking to these people........they are down to earth as can be.
 
track said:
r204, you did mention "fee." Read my previous posts, I respect land owners immensely, many of them are friends. I have townships of private land to hunt and likewise for anyone else who wishes to hunt. Last year I hunted my mule deer buck on 1.5 townships and never witnessed seeing another hunter. Alberta and Saskatchewan are not like Ontario and Quebec; land here is vast with abundance of game and few hunters. In other words, hunters are needed by farmers to aid in population reduction. Elk, moose and deer greatly reduces crop yield. I've met hundreds of farmers in my lifetime, because I've spend many days scouting for big game and talking to these people........they are down to earth as can be.
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Farmers don't need hunters to reduce the population. The government pays for any crop loss due to wildlife.

In fact they have a program that pays them to not allow waterfowl hunters to access crop land with waterfowl feeding on it even after the crop is in the bin.
 
There's a considerable difference and completely different dynamics comparing a meat hunter that will shoot any legal deer to merely fill his freezer versus a paid guide. A guide who has a client from Germany or the US in tow. And either one have deep pockets for the rack of thier lifetime but only X amount of days before that flight home.
 
I recall early stories of Ontario Sportsmen agreeing to land leases from Farmers and property owners for access to a Trout Stream or Pond.
The sum was usually high enough that it was a Party arrangement of three or 4 sportsmen who all felt that thier share was well invested in their sporting pursuits.
But in return the Leaser would refuse anyone else access for the duration of the Lease. and the 4 gents would certainly protect their Fishing hole as well.
Where's the harm in taking on a similar Lease agreement for Upland Bird small game Large Game and Predator.
 
I live in Eastern Ontario outside of Ottawa. I have never paid to hunt land and have access to over 1500 ac of land. I know the landowners and I occasionally give a hand when they need it. I was just at one property last week milking cows and teaching my son as he will be working there occasionally this summer and the next few. As well there are ton's of crown land for every type of hunting. Find the land.
 
I fail to see the reason for paying for the land. Around here most farmers pretty much want people to kill as many geese and Yotes as possible, heck they would practically pay you.
 
greatwhite said:
I fail to see the reason for paying for the land. Around here most farmers pretty much want people to kill as many geese and Yotes as possible, heck they would practically pay you.
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Yes, and many farmers have supplied hunters with 22 ammo to kill gophers on their land.
 
RiMP9 said:
In area of Ontario we ask for permission, afterwards we usually share out game with them as a good gesture and thank you for being able to hunt on their land.
PLUS we only leave foot prints behind not torn up land (4 wheelers), broken fences or garbage. Thus next time you contact the land owner to hunt his property he most likely to allow you to hunt there.
Basically it's a no brainer for respectful hunters. It only takes one idiot to screw it up for everyone else.
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Fixed that rickyism for you :)
 
nomad 68 said:
I call total bs on this. Some maybe but most? No way.
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I own and have exclusive access to a pretty good acreage in eastern Ontario, sadly I’ve had 2 people ask permission and I granted it on the days I was going out.
Well both have left garbage behind and both are no longer welcome, not sure I’ll allow anyone else access unless I know someone that can vouch for them.

JJ
 
CanadianMarksman said:
That would be ideal :)
Unfortunately a packed schedule coupled with unfamiliarity with Ontario outside of Toronto makes this a difficult task for me
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I have land to hunt near Toronto but I need some work in exchange. The deal will depend on your occupation and skills.

I also have a prime waterfront goose and duck location on lake Scugog that can be shared with the right person or group. Same deal, I am looking for work not money.

PM for details.
 
Army Issue Surplus Inc said:
I recall early stories of Ontario Sportsmen agreeing to land leases from Farmers and property owners for access to a Trout Stream or Pond.
The sum was usually high enough that it was a Party arrangement of three or 4 sportsmen who all felt that thier share was well invested in their sporting pursuits.
But in return the Leaser would refuse anyone else access for the duration of the Lease. and the 4 gents would certainly protect their Fishing hole as well.
Where's the harm in taking on a similar Lease agreement for Upland Bird small game Large Game and Predator.
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See the recent Douglas Lake Decision in BC.
 
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