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Alonzo

Alonzo

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Ok...I realize this may be a stupid question but I got to ask anyhow.
Does anyone know if there are restriction on the import of a deactivated 60 or 81MM WW2 Mortar?
I think it would be good addition to the collection plus a decent center piece for the display room.
Thanks for your advise or reference to the CFC.
Cheers
 
Hunt around in Canada. I've seen numerous mortars come up for sale. Less hassle then going though the importation redtape & already in Canada. I'm not sure about mortars, but IIRC, anything over .50 cal can be owned without restriction as the ammunition to shoot them is not considered "easily obtainable" by civilians in Canada. I know a couple of guys who have their own howitzers, so I don't think a mortar would be that much of a problem!:)
 
I think all of his are dewats. Not sure why he dewats everything, even when not required.
 
That's an interesting question. I know that Customs doesn't allow the importing of dewat firearms without special paperwork because they are considered replicas.

I have no idea about mortars.
 
That's an interesting question. I know that Customs doesn't allow the importing of dewat firearms without special paperwork because they are considered replicas.
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The current Canada Customs policy is that a deactivated gun has to be imported as if it was live, and to an appropriately liscenced business or individual, and then be certified as deactivated.

Missing something has it right...you need to go through international affairs to import anything like these. If you try and bring it live, it will fall under the controlled goods act, and they may make you register with that department as well. Most likely they will want it deactivated. If the sending country needs an import certificate from this end, you can get that for free from DFAIT. You send that to the seller so he can get his export permit. You then have to get an import permit (costs about 30 bucks) from DFAIT. You would (should, but the customs guys don't always know what is needed either) need this to get it from customs. Note that the import certificate (free) and the import permit (sosts) are two different things.
Note that the US likely won't give permission to export things like this to an individual. The UK is also getting very sticky about some of these items. I had to wait while my seller got an export permit for a Bren mag hopper loader a few years back (worth the wait).

I have a 2" mortar that K&M sold back when they were in the business. They were sold functional. I have only fired it once with an empty para round, and it was way too much fun to be legal.
 
I asked Fred at CS that question a while back one reason their big stuff is deactivated is because it's the country where they are getting most of the big stuff won't let it out of their country unless it's deactivated .ie England and to some extent Finland .Nothing really to do with Canadian laws you can have a working artillery /morter piece in Canada
 
Got my 2 inch from Australia. Da Gubmint squashed one end of the tube and deacted the firing mechanism. Had a replacement tube made, but of course it cannot fire, though it does make a nice display.
 
SKIRSONS;
Canada Customs allows the importation of dewats....
BUT you must have an IIC in place as well being allowed to deal in MGs....
The authorities consider ALL dewats that arrive at our borders to be live MGs....
Once imported the importer (if allowed) can then verify and certify that the weapon in question is deactivated to Canadian standards....
If the importer has the proper class of permit they can then request it be removed from the CFC records, it will no longer be considered a firearm....
John
 
STEN COLLECTOR;
A bit of confusion here....
You are absolutely correct on the MGs, permits, etc, see my other reply.

However for mortars and rockets in addition to having a valid IIC in place you MUST be registered with Controled Goods Canada....
Under the new regulations such devices may ONLY be sold to companies or individuals registered with CGC....
Once you have them in country the decision to deactivate is yours, but if you wish to sell to the public you have little choice....

Remember that once you are registered with CGC you are open to more inspections....

Your quote says it all "it was way too much fun to be legal."

We all know that if it's fun it either is or should be illegal....
John
 
Johnone: When did the "must" come in to play? It did not seem that long ago that a certain canadian firearms store was advertising working 82mm mortar launchers to anyone over 18, without referance to any kind of registration?
Another Cdn gunshop recently had the CGC tell them that since they did not export goods from Canada, they did not need to be registered anymore.

I think that this is a growing department (initially under the reasoning of international control of weapons and now trying to help control internal terrorism )that has maybe not fully defined where it's boundaries and responsibilities are.

Does this mean that every collector with a dummy grenade or a launcher for the end of an M14 has to register with this department?
 
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