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fat tony
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The cgn faithful fretting over the definition of vet should read your post.
Same thing happened with the US vets returning from Viet Nam. The vets from later conflicts are being treated slightly better.
After the shocking treatment of Viet Nam vets the US military has had continuing issues with recruitment. Their government is having a hard time to live that tragic treatment down.
The heavy social engineering the recruits are subjected to from birth to the recruitment stage has a huge impact on how they react to both the mental and physical rigors of military service. It's not something everyone can cope with.
As for governments not following through with their responsibilities to fulfill their nation's obligations to their vets and first responders? Same ole, same ole. Politicians and Bureaucrats don't care. Politicians and Bureaucrats don't have to go fight the battles or respond to the tragedies. At best, they give them lip service publicly and then give it to them from behind without lube.
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fat tony
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a pic of the M1 helmet that saved Jorge Altieri's life on Mt. Longdon, recently recovered and returned to him.
article with pic: https://www.bastillepost.com/global...ry-of-falklands-war-helmets-helps-heal-wounds
Shaw's helmet:
2019 article.
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As soldiers in the Falklands they were treated the same and fought accordingly.
Grizz
P-63 Kingcobra, younger brother of the P-39 Airacobra. They were such attractive airplanes and looked like winners. Unfortunately the P-39 was handicapped by its non-turbo charged Allison engine which put it way behind the power curve at altitude when compared to adversaries like the Me-109 and Zero. Short range was another limitation.
The Brits were desperate in the early days and tried and rejected the P-39 as unsuitable. The US was forced to make do with them until something better came along. A lot of the `Cobras went to the Russians who used them to great advantage for ground attack and used them in low level air combat against the Luftwaffe with good results.
The Pima County Air Museum in Tucson, AZ has a nicely restored P-63 and P-39. They are still very attractive aircraft, kind of like the ``Trudeau`` of WW2 fighters; pretty, destructive at times, but not very effective overall.
The Brits were desperate in the early days and tried and rejected the P-39 as unsuitable. The US was forced to make do with them until something better came along. A lot of the `Cobras went to the Russians who used them to great advantage for ground attack and used them in low level air combat against the Luftwaffe with good results.
The Pima County Air Museum in Tucson, AZ has a nicely restored P-63 and P-39. They are still very attractive aircraft, kind of like the ``Trudeau`` of WW2 fighters; pretty, destructive at times, but not very effective overall.
Dark Alley Dan
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Uncle Joe was happy to get them via Edmonton...
Nice mixed bag at Blatchford...
Nice mixed bag at Blatchford...
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I believe he’s referring to how the Argentinian govt treated it’s returning vets. They were essentially disowned by the govt for losing the war, thus all blame was transferred onto them. In turn the govt used the vets as a proxy for failure.As soldiers in the Falklands they were treated the same and fought accordingly.
Grizz
The Allison V-1710 engine is what plagued the P51 Mustang ( NA-91 Apache ) too. If some genius (Ronnie Harker) didn't think to rip out the Allison and jam in a Merlin...it could have been a completely different war....
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Interesting bit of history, is once the Packard-Merlin equipped Mustangs started coming into full scale production; the Brits wanted them as a part of the Lend-Lease agreement. So, the Yanks sent them Mustangs - more Allison ones that is. Apparently Winston was a bit miffed by this, and so was Fighter Command.
Yes.
The first P-51B exited the assembly line and flew in May of 1943. The P-51C model flew 3 months later
It's a "D"...but it's our D.
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The first P-51B exited the assembly line and flew in May of 1943. The P-51C model flew 3 months later
It's a "D"...but it's our D.
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Apparently, air deployed smoke screens were all the rage with the US Navy for a time in the early to late 30's. The TBD-1 Devastator (called by some the worst naval airplane of WWII), had smoke canisters as a part of the design requirements. Not sure what aircraft was being used here in these tests for the smoke deploy, but it looks reasonably effective.
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It was an interesting concept, and the Navy put a lot of effort into it. But for reasons I can't find, it was dropped several years before the outbreak of the war. Which I find kind of odd.... Smoke screens were an important defensive measure during the war, being able to rapidly deploy one from an aircraft seems like a "non-terrible" idea.
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It was an interesting concept, and the Navy put a lot of effort into it. But for reasons I can't find, it was dropped several years before the outbreak of the war. Which I find kind of odd.... Smoke screens were an important defensive measure during the war, being able to rapidly deploy one from an aircraft seems like a "non-terrible" idea.
