200+ Yards with .22s

That's where the fun starts...

Personally, I'm the exact opposite...
Other than to establish my base line zero, I rarely use a rimfire inside 100 yards, and rarely use a center fire rifle inside 300 yards.

To each their own... but that would not be the norm. Fortunately, we can all play our own games.
 
That's where the fun starts...

Personally, I'm the exact opposite...
Other than to establish my base line zero, I rarely use a rimfire inside 100 yards, and rarely use a center fire rifle inside 300 yards.

Interesting. I rarely push my 22s TO 100 yards...and seldom shoot my centerfires beyond 200 yards. No wonder I feel like I'm a pretty good shot. lol
 
Thats fantastic shooting! A few fellas at our club used to have a 200 metre piggy shoot every Saturday, but they used scoped rifles. And the targets were smaller. I haven't seen them there in a while now.

Steve, I have mentioned getting this started again Gord, David, Frank & myself would enjoy a resurgence of this.
 
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That’s impressive shooting with open sights. I just picked up a Ruger precision .22LR and it’s shooting such good groups (I’m used to a 10/22) that this longer range 22 shooting has me intrigued for the fun and challenge. Pretty neat that the irons go to 200 yards on
Your gun I thought you must have had a crazy holdover
 
There was an earlier thread where some members were questioning whether a .22lr can be accurate and consistent at 200 yards... And from what I recall there was kind of a friendly challenge to see what kind of groups people were achieving at these longer distances. So instead of burying my post in that thread, I'll start a new one here on the topic. Here's some photos and a video of me shooting my CZ 452 Lux at about 220 yards at an 8" steel plate. Enjoy!

Earlier today I made the following post in this thread:

That's not bad. Near 4 MOA with open sights.

I stand by that, as it is good shooting with iron sights at 200 plus yards. But let's be careful not make this out to be more than it is. Reading some of the enthusiastic comments above and some further reflection since this morning has me sounding some caution.

Hitting an 8" X 8" steel plate at 200 yards most of the time should not be confused by anyone as the same as showing what kind of groups anyone is getting at that distance. First, no groups are shown. Second, it's not possible to tell where the POI of those few that miss the gong would be. If it were on paper we could actually see "groups" (such as they would be at 200 plus yards), but with a gong we just don't know. Third, I erred when I suggested it was "near 4 MOA". An 8x8 inch square gong can sound strikes for more than 5 MOA. (The diagonal measurement of an 8x8 inch square is over 11" and so that would be the diameter of a circle -- over 5 MOA). As there is no record of where the few gong misses actually struck, we have no way of knowing what size the "groups" might be. Every shot counts.

Despite suggestions to the contrary, the .22LR round was not designed for long distance shooting. It simply doesn't have the legs for it. Sure the bullet will travel the distance and much beyond, but its accuracy has long since left the picture. The effects of wind and gravity militate against the good accuracy that can be achieved at more realistic distances, not to mention the challenges posed by the relatively wide ES that accompanies even the best match ammos. No one here is showing "groups" at 200 plus yards. At 200 yards, every one fps difference between one round and the next means a difference in POI of one tenth of an inch. That in itself doesn't sound like much, but ten fps difference means one inch in POI. And quite significantly, the best match ammo has an ES of at least 20-30 fps.

I share hoytcanon's views and he puts it very, very well:

.22 LR was not designed for 200-300+ yard shooting, that does not mean that it can't be done... if you enjoy shooting at distance that is great. Steel gong shooting is efficient in that it is reactive and does not require resetting, but it is not the best way to gauge accuracy, at least in a finely tuned and measured sense... but if you normally hit an 8" gong twice out of ten shots, but improve to 8 out of ten shots, it is a clear indicator of improved accuracy... once you are at 10 out of 10 shots, you have to shoot further out or go to a smaller gong.

Personally, I don't enjoy Rimfire "group" shooting beyond 100 yards, but we do a fair bit of "fun" shooting at much longer distances on silhouettes, clays and eggs etc...

Clearly you are having fun on that gong, and with iron sights, that is good shooting. Keep ringing the bell!

Since the OP was shooting for gong strikes rather than "groups" it should be kept in mind that there is a difference between the two. They are not substitutes for one another.

Hitting a gong with open sights at 200 plus yards is very commendable. It reflects a steady hand and a good eye. Still it's not the same as shooting groups. And it doesn't "prove" that .22LR rounds are capable of significant accuracy at long distances. If the standard is 5 MOA accuracy, however, then raise your glasses and celebrate.
 
There was an earlier thread where some members were questioning whether a .22lr can be accurate and consistent at 200 yards... And from what I recall there was kind of a friendly challenge to see what kind of groups people were achieving at these longer distances. So instead of burying my post in that thread, I'll start a new one here on the topic. Here's some photos and a video of me shooting my CZ 452 Lux at about 220 yards at an 8" steel plate. Enjoy!

Nice shooting especially with open sights.

I can't be bother trying to prove to anyone I can hit 8" gongs consistently past 200 yards with my 16" Barrel CZ 457 22lr.... instead, I HAVE a shooting range in my back yard from my front porch that I can shoot past 200 yards.

285 yards.... how sweet it is! :rockOn:
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I stand by that, as it is good shooting with iron sights at 200 plus yards. But let's be careful not make this out to be more than it is. Reading some of the enthusiastic comments above and some further reflection since this morning has me sounding some caution.

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Since the OP was shooting for gong strikes rather than "groups" it should be kept in mind that there is a difference between the two. They are not substitutes for one another.

It's very possible I miscommunicated what the intention of my post was in my initial write-up. While reading some posts over the last week it seemed like a lot of members believed that shooting a .22lr at 200 yards+ is wayyy beyond the cartridge's limitations and consistency was almost nonexistent. To which I somewhat agree, like I wouldn't expect dime sized groups at these ranges, but I know that an accurate .22lr (on a calm day) can be very consistent even at these extended ranges.

So I simply wanted to show that a regular guy, with a common .22 rifle and bulk ammo (CCI Blazer), can shoot decently well at 200 yards+. I guess I could have shot paper instead of steel to show all shots, but I figured the marks in the orange paint kinda did the same thing.
 
It's very possible I miscommunicated what the intention of my post was in my initial write-up. While reading some posts over the last week it seemed like a lot of members believed that shooting a .22lr at 200 yards+ is wayyy beyond the cartridge's limitations and consistency was almost nonexistent. To which I somewhat agree, like I wouldn't expect dime sized groups at these ranges, but I know that an accurate .22lr (on a calm day) can be very consistent even at these extended ranges.

So I simply wanted to show that a regular guy, with a common .22 rifle and bulk ammo (CCI Blazer), can shoot decently well at 200 yards+. I guess I could have shot paper instead of steel to show all shots, but I figured the marks in the orange paint kinda did the same thing.

Kudos to you for your efforts. I personally won't have bother... always remember what Dirty Harry once said?

 
**cough CRPS cough**


RICK IS THE MAN!!! always an awesome job, thanks for your efforts!! (I shot photos for you at EESA)

CRPS has stages that you shoot to 300 or more in most matches!

Outlaw matches, lets get them going all over!
 
Nice shooting especially with open sights.

I can't be bother trying to prove to anyone I can hit 8" gongs consistently past 200 yards with my 16" Barrel CZ 457 22lr.... instead, I HAVE a shooting range in my back yard from my front porch that I can shoot past 200 yards.

285 yards.... how sweet it is! :rockOn:
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Sweet home range setup! Vortex diamondback 4-16 EBR2c reticle? Pretty much the best for under $500! I'm guessing you are just putting it on target for the picture or do you have like a 40MOA rail lol?
 
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Sweet home range setup! Vortex diamondback 4-16 EBR2c reticle? Pretty sweet for like $500! I'm guessing you are just putting it on target for the picture or do you have like a 30-40MOA rail?

Thanks.

Area 419 30MOA rail and a DB Tactical 6-24×50 FFP EBR2c MOA.

Up 42 MOA for 285 yards.
 
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