Duplicate Serial Number???

Dumby said:
This stinkin' issue is still not resolved. I got a message today from some woman in Ottawa and of course when I phone back no one knows anything about anything. I explained my self pretty clearly, I'm returning their call but I guess it's confusing to have incoming calls. Must just be on their watch.
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well you could do what i had to do with my WSIB worker when they statred playing stupid with me .
i played the message back to them and said someone knows who left this message if you dont, put your supervisor on the phone cause i am getting fed up with you over paid under worked pansys dicking me around
. they dont bother me anymore
 
Yup, lots of useless data in the Registry. My Brother-In-Law registered his rifles using the cartridge as the rifle make, so the Parker Hale 308 he passed on to me is registered as a Norma 308. No one at the CFC seemed to pick up on that one, or the Parker Hale .243 he gave me which is registered as a Winchester .243 . So now that I have them, should I even bother to try and sort it out?
 
Why would anyone want to register an unregistered rifle, when the law allows us to legally posess unregistered rifles. ?:confused::confused::confused:
 
8 Months later

I talked to a lady about one month ago from the RCMP center in Ottawa. It turns out the subject rifle was actually registered to someone else...I don't know how that is possible but because it sat in someone's basement for approximately 20 years! So she asked me the name of the person I got it from, I told her and the mans father's name (a gentleman well into his mid 80's), if he got it from someone else and never did a transfer this person may not even be alive!?!?! She said she would look into it and get back to me...which right now doesn't worry me because at their pace it may be forever. But I was wondering, how was it registered if the registery even exist back then? Things that me you go hum???:confused:
 
Dumby said:
I talked to a lady about one month ago from the RCMP center in Ottawa. It turns out the subject rifle was actually registered to someone else...I don't know how that is possible but because it sat in someone's basement for approximately 20 years! So she asked me the name of the person I got it from, I told her and the mans father's name (a gentleman well into his mid 80's), if he got it from someone else and never did a transfer this person may not even be alive!?!?! She said she would look into it and get back to me...which right now doesn't worry me because at their pace it may be forever. But I was wondering, how was it registered if the registery even exist back then? Things that me you go hum???:confused:
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The long gun registry has only been in place for less than ten years.
If the gun truly is in the registry, and it has sat in the bacement of a person who had NOT registered it at all.
And the registry personal is claiming it is registered, then something is truly wrong with the data in the gun registry.
 
Dumby said:
I talked to a lady about one month ago from the RCMP center in Ottawa. It turns out the subject rifle was actually registered to someone else...I don't know how that is possible but because it sat in someone's basement for approximately 20 years! So she asked me the name of the person I got it from, I told her and the mans father's name (a gentleman well into his mid 80's), if he got it from someone else and never did a transfer this person may not even be alive!?!?! She said she would look into it and get back to me...which right now doesn't worry me because at their pace it may be forever. But I was wondering, how was it registered if the registery even exist back then? Things that me you go hum???:confused:
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Great, do you know what you just did?? :(

Whoever you got it from is about to receive a visit from the police or NWEST. :puke:
 
10x said:
then something is truly wrong with the data in the gun registry.
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Would that surprise you at all? I had a similar problem with a Spanish mauser. I told the lady I could take a picture of the receiver if she wanted to see the serial number. She said no, not necessary... month later i had my reg cert. Go figure.
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
Would that surprise you at all? I had a similar problem with a Spanish mauser. I told the lady I could take a picture of the receiver if she wanted to see the serial number. She said no, not necessary... month later i had my reg cert. Go figure.
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I have several Russian sporting rifles made in Tula in the late 1960s. Model and serial numbers have cyrllic letters in them. The gun registry people would translate the cyrllic letters in the model but NOT the cryllic letters in the serial number. Word has it that for several months some of these guns had the alphabet number incremeted every 999 guns and the numbers started from zero again with a new letter in front.
 
9 months later

After useless conversations with people in Ottawa, I have now received a letter with a due date that I have to call back by or I am in illegal possesion of firearms. They said they would call me back but never did. The letter states that they are missing information, this is clearly not the case if you've read some of the earlier posts. Now, one of my antique Martinis, (it's from 1885 that's antique to me) is also in question in this letter. I would rather throw them in the lake then hand them over. I'm going to call to see what is up now and let you guys know the verdict...so much for amnesty.
 
I've had #1's with 1 letter 3 numbers, and 4 numbers only. Also had Siam numbers. Also rifles with same serial number somewhere else too.
The system does not work and this is why no normal Canadian cares a damn about it.
I've had bolt action enfield transferrs take 42 days,66 days and roughly 55 days and counting.
Tomlinson had once told me that many transferrs and registrations will take forever...6 years and counting.
 
Just curious is your Martini chambered in .303 or .22 caliber, if so it is not an antique. If indeed it is still in 450/577, just have it verified and get a written statement from the verifier and send it to the CFC, that should solve your problem on that one at least . On the Enfield, if you can locate the supposed original owner and have him transfer the rifle to you that issue can go away. A long shot yes, but it is worth a try.
 
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JP said:
Just curious is your Martini chambered in .303 or .22 caliber, if so it is not an antique. If indeed it is still in 450/577, just have it verified and get a written statement from the verifier and send it to the CFC, that should solve your problem on that one at least . On the Enfield, if you can locate the supposed original owner and have him transfer the rifle to you that issue can go away. A long shot yes, but it is worth a try.
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I can stick my thumb in the chamber...it's definitly bigger than a .303 british!
 
Lee Enfield said:
Great, do you know what you just did?? :(

Whoever you got it from is about to receive a visit from the police or NWEST. :puke:
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More likely the other party that has registered a rifle with the same SN will get a visit. Once they figure out all is well they will either:

-correct the typo in the SN the other party provided to the CFC.

-renumber and reissue certs for one or both of these two rifles that have the same SN.

My guess is a bureaucratic paperwork error rather than something nefarious.
 
I beleive U S Savage made 1,250,000 #4 Enfields. At 99C9999 as the last number the next should be the 1 millionth. Or is it a repeat of 1C0001? I am unaware of a 100c###x series.
This could mean 500,000 U.S. Savage Enfields with the same number as another.
Does anyone out there have an awnser?
 
10+ months later

JP said:
Just curious is your Martini chambered in .303 or .22 caliber, if so it is not an antique. If indeed it is still in 450/577, just have it verified and get a written statement from the verifier and send it to the CFC, that should solve your problem on that one at least . On the Enfield, if you can locate the supposed original owner and have him transfer the rifle to you that issue can go away. A long shot yes, but it is worth a try.
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The Martini has been accepted/classed finally as an antique, I have written confirmation.

Now I'm just waiting on the status of the Lee Enfield. I guess it takes months and months to call the other guy?
 
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