Reticle change worth it?

Beaver Skin said:
To change to a B&C or Varmint reticle is pricey because they are etched glass reticles..I think. If you were changing to a duplex, German #4, or something that is wire based, I think its a lot more reasonable.
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This is correct - most all of the drop reticles are etched glass, which drives up the cost.

KGL
 
freddyfour said:
Do you have a price list with reticles?
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We do, but is is difficult to publish. This is due to the variety of reticle options, along with the different erector systems that house the reticle.

For example:
VX-Freedom, VX-1/2, AR MOD 1 non-illuminated reticle changes are $167.19
VX-R, AR MOD 1 illuminated reticle changes are $234.06
Reticles in the VX-3, VX-3i, and Mark 4 are $267.50
VX-5/6, Mark 5/6, and Mark 8 range from $367.81 to 869.38 (for FFP Horus reticles).

Hope this helps.

KGL
 
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I just got off the phone with Korth and thought to add some clarify the above post.

I was hoping to change a duplex to a german #4 (a wire reticle to another wire reticle) in a VX3 and the price isn't $167.19; its $267.50. So the cost in the VX3 series is a flat $267.50 regardless of a glass or wire reticle. From some of the comments above I incorrectly understood etched glass reticles to be more costly to switch, which isn't the case.

Shoot...I was really hoping for a german #4!
 
Beaver Skin said:
I just got off the phone with Korth and thought to add some clarify the above post.

I was hoping to change a duplex to a german #4 (a wire reticle to another wire reticle) in a VX3 and the price isn't $167.19; its $267.50. So the cost in the VX3 series is a flat $267.50 regardless of a glass or wire reticle. From some of the comments above I incorrectly understood etched glass reticles to be more costly to switch, which isn't the case.

Shoot...I was really hoping for a german #4!
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That is our error - most all of the reticle change requests we receive for the VX-3i are glass (varmint, Boone & Crocket, etc).

KGL
 
First, are the prices in Canadian dollars or US dollars?

Second, I have had two scopes , one with a CDS and the other an M1 turret. This was a while back.

I like the Leupold scopes as they are fairly light with good glass for the price.

However, the CDS and M1 in my limited experience do not dial precisely or are they linear in their adjustment, these both were on 6x42's.

A fudge factor must be introduced to compensate for the discrepancies. This requires a tall target test at near ranges and proof at long ranges of the 'fudge' you put into it. Workable but definitely not plug and play.

The erector travel is limited, ~ 31 moa ^ in the ones I had.

Good enough for big game at reasonable distances. But not so good when ranging distances and dialing for that distance.

What I did to mitigate the built in errors is to zero at 200m (good to ~300m with no hold over), then test at 4 or 5 ranges from 300m out to 500m and mark these on the dial.

It worked OK but the POA and POI seemed to vary from range day to range day, not holding a precise zero being the culpert.

Your experience may vary from my 2 scope experience.
 
reticle #1 is the most underrated reticle. try to check under low light conditions and reported here.

i may have a vx3 with bc or vx3i with bc that im willing to trade for your german 1 vx3 if you do not mind.
 
BCBRAD said:
First, are the prices in Canadian dollars or US dollars?

Second, I have had two scopes , one with a CDS and the other an M1 turret. This was a while back.

I like the Leupold scopes as they are fairly light with good glass for the price.

However, the CDS and M1 in my limited experience do not dial precisely or are they linear in their adjustment, these both were on 6x42's.

A fudge factor must be introduced to compensate for the discrepancies. This requires a tall target test at near ranges and proof at long ranges of the 'fudge' you put into it. Workable but definitely not plug and play.

The erector travel is limited, ~ 31 moa ^ in the ones I had.

Good enough for big game at reasonable distances. But not so good when ranging distances and dialing for that distance.

What I did to mitigate the built in errors is to zero at 200m (good to ~300m with no hold over), then test at 4 or 5 ranges from 300m out to 500m and mark these on the dial.

It worked OK but the POA and POI seemed to vary from range day to range day, not holding a precise zero being the culpert.

Your experience may vary from my 2 scope experience.
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Canadian Dollars for the prices quoted.

The CDS system is designed to create an opportunity for traditionally non-long range shooters to extend their range for a successful hunt (if that makes sense). The system is not meant to replicate dialing specific dope based on the environments the day you are shooting. This leaves a bit of room for error, as the CDS dials are lasered based on set data (elevation, average temp, BC, etc). For most hunters, their scope is set up for fall hunting. When shooting outside of the season (summer time, for example) the dial was issued, you will most certainly see variations in the point of impact. That said, when shooting the dial when the info is as accurate as possible, the CDS will drop rounds exactly where you want them. We ran some testing from 100 yards to 1000 yards with a VX-6HD 3-18 with the ZL-2 dial; each round made center hits on steel at each 100 yard increment.

If you find your scope is not holding zero, please send it back to us for inspection.


medvedqc said:
reticle #1 is the most underrated reticle. try to check under low light conditions and reported here.

i may have a vx3 with bc or vx3i with bc that im willing to trade for your german 1 vx3 if you do not mind.
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Agreed - we would like to see this reticle offered as a factory option on more scopes.

KGL
 
BCBRAD said:
I like the Leupold scopes as they are fairly light with good glass for the price.

However, the CDS and M1 in my limited experience do not dial precisely or are they linear in their adjustment, these both were on 6x42's.

A fudge factor must be introduced to compensate for the discrepancies. This requires a tall target test at near ranges and proof at long ranges of the 'fudge' you put into it. Workable but definitely not plug and play.

The erector travel is limited, ~ 31 moa ^ in the ones I had.

Good enough for big game at reasonable distances. But not so good when ranging distances and dialing for that distance.

It worked OK but the POA and POI seemed to vary from range day to range day, not holding a precise zero being the culpert.

Your experience may vary from my 2 scope experience.
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Yeah, that all sounds mighty familiar. ;)
 
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