Entry level precision rifles
- Thread starter Couleecreek
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I don't own any Savages. But have pretty much nothing but good things to say about them. A couple of the best shooters in the ORA matches I do use factory Savages. They embarrass custom rifles and Cadex rigs etc.
Savage is the best value per $ IMO. $700 gun that will pop 1000 yards.
Savage is the best value per $ IMO. $700 gun that will pop 1000 yards.
Mystic Precision
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Was one of the first to compete with the Savage/Stevens in F class and did very well with it over these many years BUT it is not my choice for an AICS mag rifle... especially, if Precision rifle means PRS type games.
Here the 783 is vastly better..
I still compete with my Savage/Stevens in F TR and it still continue to help me get on the F class podium. But now I use the 783 to help me get on the mag fed precision rifle podium
Just depends on the needs of the game.
Jerry
Mystic Precision
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My hope is this is the first of many variants of the 783 that includes more mainstream features. With the massive growth of affordable chassis rifles for PRS/NRL games, I hope that Rem execs will understand the benefits already engineered into this receiver and apply it appropriately.
Jerry
OP, you still didn't state what you want to do with the rifle.
Shoot targets from the covered bench off rests?? Hunt gophers, deer, moose???
What do you call precision shooting? Is sub moa good enough or do you want sub 1/4 moa groups?
Sub moa is easily available off the shelf but it requires a scope that is capable of reducing parallax to go with it and ammo it likes.
You asked a broad question and got broad answers.
If I may suggest, take a look on the CGN EE for a precision package that is already assembled, with quality components. There are usually several there at reasonable prices. Be careful about round count. If the person doesn't want to divulge that info, don't purchase. Worn throats aren't good for accuracy.
As for the Bergara???? It wouldn't be my first choice.
As for Savage, it also wouldn't be my first choice, but only because I think they're fugly. The nice thing about them though is that barrels are very easily swapped out and can be purchased pre chambered.
I've seen a couple of Savage rifles, with medium weight, 24 inch barrels, chambered for the 260 Remington perform on coyotes out to 500+ meters. The cross section on most coyotes is about 10 cm.
The two brothers that have those rifles love them. They picked the basic rifles up for around $400 each, new in the box, swapped out the barrels for $350 each and picked up knock off Zeiss scoped from Amazon, under $200. Both of the rifles already had laminated stocks and those were left as is, other than to relieve the barrel channels for better clearance.
Both of these rifles will shoot sub 1/2 moa groups out past 500 meters.
You can double or triple the cost by starting off with a Bergara as a base rifle. NO, I'm not putting down the Bergara. I like them, but if your budget is tight???
Shoot targets from the covered bench off rests?? Hunt gophers, deer, moose???
What do you call precision shooting? Is sub moa good enough or do you want sub 1/4 moa groups?
Sub moa is easily available off the shelf but it requires a scope that is capable of reducing parallax to go with it and ammo it likes.
You asked a broad question and got broad answers.
If I may suggest, take a look on the CGN EE for a precision package that is already assembled, with quality components. There are usually several there at reasonable prices. Be careful about round count. If the person doesn't want to divulge that info, don't purchase. Worn throats aren't good for accuracy.
As for the Bergara???? It wouldn't be my first choice.
As for Savage, it also wouldn't be my first choice, but only because I think they're fugly. The nice thing about them though is that barrels are very easily swapped out and can be purchased pre chambered.
I've seen a couple of Savage rifles, with medium weight, 24 inch barrels, chambered for the 260 Remington perform on coyotes out to 500+ meters. The cross section on most coyotes is about 10 cm.
The two brothers that have those rifles love them. They picked the basic rifles up for around $400 each, new in the box, swapped out the barrels for $350 each and picked up knock off Zeiss scoped from Amazon, under $200. Both of the rifles already had laminated stocks and those were left as is, other than to relieve the barrel channels for better clearance.
Both of these rifles will shoot sub 1/2 moa groups out past 500 meters.
You can double or triple the cost by starting off with a Bergara as a base rifle. NO, I'm not putting down the Bergara. I like them, but if your budget is tight???
Might depend on your starting point; if you've never owned a scoped centrefire rifle before then a starter rifle might be in order. Maybe a bolt-action in .223 because you'll want to send a few cases of cheap ammo downrange as you build the fundamental skills. If you're already past that point then it's time to look at the specialist gear and interesting calibres, spending a lot of money but not wasting it learning basics.
Mystic Precision
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Unlike other brands, Rem continues to offer the 783 in SA and LA. These are distinct actions. The SA is a 'full length' action.
Jerry
Until it gets more support, it shouldn't even be in the discussion.
The OP would be much better served with something like a Tikka in a KRG Bravo.
Mystic Precision
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Typical, chicken/egg debate.... and a corporation that just came out of bankruptcy.
It took Savage quite a while to take off... took Tikka even longer. HOWA is finally making a move. The aftermarket follows....
We have seen Rem offer more and better variants of the 783. Feedback on various groups continue to be extremely positive (US based). When hunters tire of their plastic, they will demand upgrades... and aftermarket will and has followed.
But at the root, you still need an action that is well designed, well manufactured, and offers a ton of potential. This the 783 has in spades.
The engineers that put the 783 together were very forward thinking... we will need to see if the execs and marketers can/want to catch up.
In case you didn't notice, Timney is about to complete beta testing of their trigger. Production will follow and likely Q4/Q1 release.
Oryx and MDT chassis exists.. boyds continues to make all sorts of stocks.... DBM exists. match barrels are offered by several brands. Scope bases are offered. Trigger is coming up.
wouldn't surprise me to see more offerings in 2020....
Jerry
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Sounds like a great choice.
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Recon Schultz & Larsen tactical with the lapped cut barrel, carbon fibre stock might be fairly up there in choice. Tikka would be my second choice but you'd need to change the stock. Last Saturday we dropped a friends new T3 CTR 6.5CM 24" in a factory bedded carbon stock and proceeded to zero it. Same day at a range they broke clays at 940m. Sunday competed at a PRS match and did well. Good hits out to 1060m. He will take part in European PRS competitions along with a Guardian long range in Ireland in the coming weeks.
Factory rifle tricked up with aftermarket stock but factory Sako TRG ammo (136gr Scenar L).
edi
That is a great looking set up.
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Ha Ha. Funny and true.
