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Hey guys

I'm looking for a good starter kit that isn't going to break the bank. What oil and lube is prefered. Which is better bore snake , brass or aluminum and why what makes one better then the other ? Ive been reading about lots of guys breaking the rod. I'd like to avoid this. As I'm not cheap but I dont like buying things over if I dont have to.

I'd like a all in one kit with patches, snake , brushes and oil. I'm flexible on the price. But remember I'm super green to all of this. I don't need the best yet. I just need something that is going to work and not mess any of my stuff up.

Thank for the input

Nick
 
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Buy a one piece fibreglass cleaning rod. Tipton makes some nice ones. They don't break, and are not as hard one your barrel crown.
 
Magellann said:
Buy a one piece fibreglass cleaning rod. Tipton makes some nice ones. They don't break, and are not as hard one your barrel crown.
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I can't believe it took me so many years, but I finally did this a couple weeks ago and I will NEVER go back.
 
I like to use brake cleaner to clean now that I learned it recently thanks to John at you tube, lubricants still need more info. I heard bore snake is better at the field or in the range, you still need real cleaning.
 
never use a bore snake or cable. I shoot with some of the best shooters in the country and they literally told me to through all bore snakes in the garbage. You will potentially ruin your crown if you do not pull out perfectly straight you will wear the crown out. Do yourself a favour get a tipman rod and don't clean to often only if the group starts to open up.
 
Depends on what you do and what you expect out of your gun.

If you primarily use it for varmint control and shooting a gopher at 25-50 yards with putting a couple hundred rounds through is your useage.... Then clean it once a year if you remember and you'll be just fine.

If you are putting 500 rounds through the barrel every weekend, you are competing, ammo testing, trying to get 1/4" challenge finally taken down, and the difference between a 1.25" and a 1" group at 100 yards is important to you.... Then I would thoroughly clean the barrel every range session and likely have a nylon pull through cleaning like patchworm or OTIS once or twice during the range session.

Where you are on that spectrum will dictate what you do. I'm guessing it's closer to the former rather than the later. Couple things to remember..

1. 22lr ammo is dirty as hell choosing not to clean is asking to limit the accuracy and functionality of the firearm. 2500 round in, you will really see the consequences of choosing not to clean

2. The important parts of the barrel are the chamber and the crown. The first and last things the bullet will encounter. If you go the route of using a rod... For the love of all things that are good in the world... Use a bore guide. Avoid unneeded uncontrolled contact with these two areas.

Stay away from bore snakes. If you don't want to pay for a single piece carbon fibre rod and an appropriate bore guide.... Then get some nylon weed eater line and make a patch pull through system and be mindful of trying to pull it straight through and not have it rub the crown.

Look it up on YouTube it's fairly easy to make it on your own. Don't pull a tight nylon cord through a dirty barrel (400 rounds) it will break lol. Couple Loose wet patches before you get it tighter and you are good.

Hope that helps, feel free to ignore, asking about cleaning is like asking about barrel break-in. Lots of opinions.
 
If you have multiple calibers invest in an Otis Elite kit. Buy once, cry once.. rods are still occasionally required for those stubborn barrel deposits

Otis stands by their products and have replaced kinked cables for me twice years later.
 
Carbon fibre cleaning rods, Tipton Rapid Deluxe bore guide kit, Bore Tech proof positive rifle jags, NYLON brushes, Wipeout PatchOut with optional accelerator, G96.

I can clean most rifles in less than 10 patches and 10 brush strokes.

1- Start with 3 wet patches of PatchOut, about 1 every minute, and look at the colour indicators on the third patch.
2- If there's a lot of copper on the patch, do one more patch of accelerator and give it 10 nylon brush strokes and eave it to rest for 10-20 minutes. If only little copper on the patch, then it's 10 nylon brush strokes and no waiting.
3- Run 3 more wet patches and look at the colour indicators on the third. Most rifles will be completely clean at that point. If not, repeat step 2.
4- Run 2 dry patches to remove all the PatchOut and run one final patch with G96 for bore protection and simulated fouling.

All done, 10 patches and 10 brush strokes. With hand lapped bores that's less than 10 minutes to a complete clean. With rougher factory bores, well 20 minutes with waiting for the PatchOut to soak.
 
I prefer a 17 cal carbon fiber rod and adapter. A 22 cal rod scrapes on the ejector on some 22 bolt actions. Plus, you don't have to buy a new rod when you get a 17 cal.

Carbon fiber is stiff and won't damage your bore. Also, sectioned rods have snags at the sections that might cause scraping, and trap debris. A one piece rod is more sanitary.
 
Blairsville said:
never use a bore snake or cable. I shoot with some of the best shooters in the country and they literally told me to through all bore snakes in the garbage. You will potentially ruin your crown if you do not pull out perfectly straight you will wear the crown out. Do yourself a favour get a tipman rod and don't clean to often only if the group starts to open up.
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Otis pull through is not a bore snake, it is a coated cable. No different than a tip man rods is coated, in terms of coating. Only exposed is brass
 
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So whats the difference between cleaning rods why is carbon fiber so good compared to the other ones ?
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It's about flex in the bore while pushing the rod through. Cheaper rods will bend and rub in the bore. Coated rods help but any amount of rubbing is not desirable. Carbon fiber rods have the less flex.
 
What’s wrong with boresnakes? I have a couple of Hopps ones I use with my handguns. I use them halfway through a session to keep the handguns clear of any build up.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
I prefer a 17 cal carbon fiber rod and adapter. A 22 cal rod scrapes on the ejector on some 22 bolt actions. Plus, you don't have to buy a new rod when you get a 17 cal.

Carbon fiber is stiff and won't damage your bore. Also, sectioned rods have snags at the sections that might cause scraping, and trap debris. A one piece rod is more sanitary.
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You can’t safely run a .22 rod through a .22 CZ. Most people downsize to a .20
 
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