New Release M4 Clone Tac12!
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What happened was someone brought up the fact that the gun they posted a picture of had a magazine tube that was limited but the gun on the Turkish instagram page didn't. They downvoted him for bringing it up and denied it was limited to 4 rounds and then deleted their post. Now their website shows its limited at 4 rounds lol. So basically what happened is a sketchy company got called out for either being incompetent or lying and deleted their post.
Yeah I saw the start of that, although the first comment that started it all was phrased sort of weirdly, saying how “Turkish companies can’t get it right” in regards to the 4+1 capacity, he made it sound like it was by choice and not a legal requirement. Completely made me overlook the legal aspect of it. Not sure why they posted it as 7+1 at first but it’s fixed now. Personally I don’t think they should have deleted the post and should’ve just owned up to their mistake.
5+1 or 5? There's a difference... The website of the company being discussed in this thread shows the gun they are selling is 4+1.
Legally, in Canada, it isn't a requirement for it to be limited to 4 rounds. It would be fine limited to 5+1. And it could even be limited to 5+1+1 of 3.5" shells like the Canuck Operator. That's what the guy on Reddit meant by Turkish companies not getting it right as this same mistake was made with the Kommando P4.
The extra +1 comes from the Benelli design allowing for a round on the shell carrier (ghost loading).
we also could do this in our beretta's a400... 2 + 2
The gun should hold nearly 6 shells of 3" plus one on the chamber. If it ghost loads that is even better. If that is not the case then I would have to agree they didn't get it right.
"Clearly"? You have one in your hands right now? Or are you just some sort of assumptious troll?
So if Simon at S&J, one of the foremost combat shotgun authorities in the country, backs the design and sells the gun with numerous quality add ons trailered for the guns design then what...(?)...are you calling him a fool or junk peddler?
Gimmie a break. STFU or GTFO!
LOL
Okay champ, calm down. Are you married to Simon or something? Are you Turkish and have to defend all their junk firearms from the mean internet?
Okay champ, calm down. Are you married to Simon or something? Are you Turkish and have to defend all their junk firearms from the mean internet?
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Let me be clear, I'm not here to defend all Turkish manufacturer's, some really are junk just like some American and Canadian manufacturers are, but I will say that lumping them all in the same boat is a huge mistake and you're severely underestimating their capabilities to bring quality products at amazing prices. Many of the Western World manufacturers actually out source all of their shotgun production to Turkey and then just charge the Western World markup. I have had a couple bad experiences a few years ago with Turkish made shotguns when they first started to trickle in (anybody remember the Sap6?), and as a result I held back until recently when I picked up and fd12 and a Commando P4. I can say that both have been nothing short of amazing experiences and both have ran like a top and have excellent fit and finish, even better then my western manufactured shotguns. Both actions feel like my SG550 or ACR for crying out loud!
It should say something when you have custom gun companies like S&J Hardware and Tactical Ordnance backing Turkish made products. They wouldn't be promoting them if they weren't decent.
At this point if you gave me a choice between 2 turknelli M4's and the real deal, I would only take the real Benelli M4 just to turn around and sell it for $1,800 so I could buy to Turknelli's and some ammo. And if you told me I wasn't allowed to sell whichever choice I made I would take two Turknelli over a real Benelli. These dont at all scream turkish sketchy quality, that is a thing of the past.
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Same reason I would want 10 Ar's, 4 Tavor's, or 2 T97. I like different configurations. One will be a wick m2 clone, the other will be a wick m4 clone.
Its not there as a spare, it is it's own example.
A better question is, what does the Benelli M4 bring to the table to justify being 2.77 times the cost, especially when the Benelli has an approx depreciation rate of 33% ($857, that's more than an entire Turknelli!) VS the turknelli which has an approximate depreciation rate of 22% ($185).
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