Advice please - Maccabee or ATRS receiver for a simple solid NR 5.56mm?

NeonGreen said:
i think the upper to lower fitment is a matter of preference, i think there is accuracy potential to be gained from the tighter fit of the SLR, although i will say this, i have never seen actual evidence that upper and lower wobble have any affect on accuracy, i know ill rustle some feathers with that but again, ive never seen evidence of it. that being said the Alberta tactical upper and lower fit is rick solid, ive handled several of them and they were nice and tight, if there is some degree of in-perceivable wiggle in the alberta tactical, and for the sake of argument, zero wiggle in the maccabee, i think any impact on accuracy it might have would be beyond the scope of 99% of shooters ability to ring accuracy out of their rifles

at the end of the day im glad these rifles are on the market and NR (for now), i think in time the maccabee will peter out as more companies come out with designs more similar to the ATRS using a take down method more similar to the ar which is what most gun owners want, but that does not mean in any way that the maccabee is a bad design, it was the first of its type, it broke the ground that showed us the possibilities, and they work. but given the choice id rather have a take down system similar to a regular AR, and as many trigger options as possible. the brass deflector is an easy fix maccabee could address whenever they want in the future
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MDI is actually coming out with a new design. I don't know specifics, but it is different. (They posted a pic on instagram- https://www.instagram.com/p/B0oTcBwh46c/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)

And I agree, it's nothing but positive for the Canadian gun owner to have these designs available. To be honest, I have an SLR because they were the first option. They had the NR FRT locked in when people were still gambling with the lack of a concrete NR decision from the firearms lab with the ATRS. Had the ATRS and the MDI been available at the same time with the same (Advertised... lol) availability time frame, I probably would have gone with the ATRS.
 
Scotty454 said:
MDI is actually coming out with a new design. I don't know specifics, but it is different. (They posted a pic on instagram- https://www.instagram.com/p/B0oTcBwh46c/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)

And I agree, it's nothing but positive for the Canadian gun owner to have these designs available. To be honest, I have an SLR because they were the first option. They had the NR FRT locked in when people were still gambling with the lack of a concrete NR decision from the firearms lab with the ATRS. Had the ATRS and the MDI been available at the same time with the same (Advertised... lol) availability time frame, I probably would have gone with the ATRS.
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Is it just me or does that look more 308esque?
 
NeonGreen said:
"but that does not mean in any way that the maccabee is a bad design, it was the first of its type, it broke the ground that showed us the possibilities,
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Actually we pre-date Maccabee by several years with the ground breaking. Our Modern Hunter was the first Canadian designed and manufactured black rifle in Canadian history.
We had our Sporter designed and in testing prior to Maccabee even being a legal entity. they di however get FRT status sooner than we did, possibly due to my history with the SFSS lab guys.
 
NeonGreen said:
the way the upper and lower fit together is the biggest, if you have to take the gun apart having to get an Allen key as opposed to drifting out the pin like an ar is not as ideal. plus the trigger fits into the ATRS like a normal ar, the maccabee goes into a separate housing that then drops into the receiver and not all triggers will fit. third is the brass deflector on the maccabee, it sucks, its not big enough, which is fine if you are shooting right side dominant but if you shoot offhand or you are left handed you will likely be catching brass in the face unless you scoot your head way back on the stock.

that being said the maccabees work as intended, they aren't junk, just not as ideal of a design.
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I'm a lefty and have never been hit with a casing from my slr. Based on availability, I would hands down buy an slr, they ironed out the bugs a long time ago.
 
Scotty454 said:
MDI is actually coming out with a new design. I don't know specifics, but it is different. (They posted a pic on instagram- https://www.instagram.com/p/B0oTcBwh46c/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)

And I agree, it's nothing but positive for the Canadian gun owner to have these designs available. To be honest, I have an SLR because they were the first option. They had the NR FRT locked in when people were still gambling with the lack of a concrete NR decision from the firearms lab with the ATRS. Had the ATRS and the MDI been available at the same time with the same (Advertised... lol) availability time frame, I probably would have gone with the ATRS.
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im in the same boat as you, love the maccabee, would prefer the ATRS. the maccabee is great, im glad guys love theirs, but i personally think they will become the betamax of the nr AR substitutes, it will take time thought, ATRS needs to fill tons of orders, which will take them time, im sure other companies will also come out with their versions that will also be stiff competition for maccabee defence.

i know guys get defensive when they feel their $1000 is coming under criticism, and again i have one and love it, i just think there are better designs and the market will quickly decide who is "better" (read more desirable)
 
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alberta tactical rifle said:
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Actually we pre-date Maccabee by several years with the ground breaking. Our Modern Hunter was the first Canadian designed and manufactured black rifle in Canadian history.
We had our Sporter designed and in testing prior to Maccabee even being a legal entity. they di however get FRT status sooner than we did, possibly due to my history with the SFSS lab guys.
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i had honestly totally forgot about your MH and MV, so i stand corrected, but when i made the comment i was thinking FRT, but i was wrong either way
 
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Thank you all for your time and all the good advice. Very interesting perspectives. I'm very glad that we have the choice between both the ATRS and the Maccabee Canadian-made products. I'm no expert, but both companies seem well deserving of our support.

I will definitely be buying one... or the other.

Or both.

Or a couple, of both.

Thanks again for all your thoughtful comments

Dueodde
 
Dueodde said:
Thank you all for your time and all the good advice. Very interesting perspectives. I'm very glad that we have the choice between both the ATRS and the Maccabee Canadian-made products. I'm no expert, but both companies seem well deserving of our support.

I will definitely be buying one... or the other.

Or both.

Or a couple, of both.

Thanks again for all your thoughtful comments

Dueodde
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Hell yeah, that's the spirit! Lol
 
My experience
Quality ATRS>Stag 10>Macdef
Price when I last looked ATRS=Macdef>Stag 10

There is a reason for the waitlist on the ATRS, it is the best in the Canadian market.
Time is something we may not have so in the end it's up to you
 
scourge18a said:
My experience
Quality ATRS>Stag 10>Macdef
Price when I last looked ATRS=Macdef>Stag 10

There is a reason for the waitlist on the ATRS, it is the best in the Canadian market.
Time is something we may not have so in the end it's up to you
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The stag is .308(and similar) only and the MDI and ATRS are 5.56(and similar) only. Not a fair comparison.
 
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