hi guys got a question, maybe i can get some insight on here. I have a friend that moved overseas and has a storage locker rented for about 7 years with his belongings. i was asked by the family to empty it out and gave away most of the stuff that was decent, but moved his long gun safe to my place, they mailed me the keys from europe to open safe,now with the long gun registry gone in ontario i am okay with the shot guns and riffles. i currently have my Restricted PAL, he also had a colt revolver in there in its own case. I dont want to turn gun over to police i would like to keep it registered to me, just in case he ever decides to come back. i am assuming all paperwork was probably tossed with all the stuff we threw out with the storage unit. how would i go to get this registered? Any help is appreciated thanks.
Registering a restricted handgun from a friend into my name
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YMMV on the responses you'll get, but your friend is still on the hook for that restricted.
That being said, you have to take this situation as if you 'discovered' a firearm that wasn't/isn't yours. I believe there is a procedure for such situations.
Again, you're asking for opinions here, and that's all you'll get, no more, no less. Read the actual relevant laws in such cases, to be certain.
The fact I see here is that, assuming your friend didn't renew his RPAL in the 7 years he was gone, that restricted ended up being possessed by someone without the proper license... that might mean that the only avenue you have is to surrender it to the police.
That being said, you have to take this situation as if you 'discovered' a firearm that wasn't/isn't yours. I believe there is a procedure for such situations.
Again, you're asking for opinions here, and that's all you'll get, no more, no less. Read the actual relevant laws in such cases, to be certain.
The fact I see here is that, assuming your friend didn't renew his RPAL in the 7 years he was gone, that restricted ended up being possessed by someone without the proper license... that might mean that the only avenue you have is to surrender it to the police.
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i know it was a legal gun, he bought it in the 90's and police had to come to house to check if he had alarm in house and safe to store it in before he could bring it home. it is quite valuable it is a colt custom cobra one of 250 ever made and i really dont want to give it up until i can figure a way to make it legal. who knows if my buddy ever wants to come back to canada i can sign it back to him.I had no idea it was in long gun safe until i got keys and opened it. Thanks for the help.
he was all legal before he moved away, went through nasty divorce and just left the counrty, im sure he was planning to come back but as time passed it became more unlikely, thats when i was asked to clean out the storage unit. im sure all his documents are expired now.
lol, but what about those sections of pvc and shovel that were also in the safe?
I'm not sure it matters in the case of a 'firearm discovery' though... Don't forget that when someone discovers a firearm, at some point the cops will likely have to inspect/analyse/csi it in an attempt to match it to anything in their crime database...
But again, you might be lucky if you explain the situation to the CFO and they just might issue you a certificate (and maybe have the gun verified by a competent authority to match/confirm its details). They might ask for you're buddy's testimony/affidavit stating that he lost the certificate, but had it properly (legally) locked up from 2008-2015 (whatever dates) in his safe until you opened it when you took possession of it.
Someone else here might have more experience in demonstrating the chain of custody in such cases...
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I have done similar transfers a number of times. You can have the pistol transferred to you.
Call Miramachi. 1 800.731.4000 #1 #4 #2 #2 That will get you to the right person.
Explain that he has gone to Europe, no intention to return and family has emptied the storage locker and disposed of contents.
The gun locker was given to you, and when you got it open you found the Colt and want it transferred to you.
You can ask, for starters, for the storage address to be changed to your home address. Gun can remain registered to buddy.
They can use his name, old home address and Gun # to find it in the registry.
They will ask for him to initiate the transfer to you. He can do that by phone. They give him reference #, which he gives you. You call in with that # and the transfer is completed.
The fact that his PAL has expired should not matter, unless they don't want to keep it registered to him while it is stored at your place. In that case, you would go straight to the transfer option.
Call Miramachi. 1 800.731.4000 #1 #4 #2 #2 That will get you to the right person.
Explain that he has gone to Europe, no intention to return and family has emptied the storage locker and disposed of contents.
The gun locker was given to you, and when you got it open you found the Colt and want it transferred to you.
You can ask, for starters, for the storage address to be changed to your home address. Gun can remain registered to buddy.
They can use his name, old home address and Gun # to find it in the registry.
They will ask for him to initiate the transfer to you. He can do that by phone. They give him reference #, which he gives you. You call in with that # and the transfer is completed.
The fact that his PAL has expired should not matter, unless they don't want to keep it registered to him while it is stored at your place. In that case, you would go straight to the transfer option.
Even though he has an expired PAL, he is still shown as the Registered Owner and they will be most pleased to get it out of his name into somebody who is trying to do the legal thing. You can do a transfer the same as any other transaction between 2 parties given the circumstances, and it is in secure storage. . He can call the CFC to initiate and you can complete. No need to 'hide' any details as it is coming out from his 'possession' into yours.
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Pretty much this.
I don't understand how the RCMP has not already come looking for that gun. If it is registered to someone and their RPAL is expired I would have thought there would be a red flag notification pop up and someone say hey we should look in to this.
Never heard of the cops coming to check out how you stored your guns before.
This in a nutshell.
I took ownership of my dad's old AR15 that he hadn't registered since the old provincial registry. RCMP had no record of it so it was treated as a new registry and there was some emails sent back and forth before I got my new papers.
In your case, your friend could call from Europe, or you treat it as found and start fresh from the serial number.
I have run into guns that have sat in the system for yrs , with no calls, letters from Fire arms. Did one for a estate that was 1970's.
Had a gun show up in my name from 1980,s that I had sold, transfer never completed at the other end.
There nothing with this where you need to worry, as long as the owner will call the transfer in simple.
Only problem that could crop up is if the cobra is a 12-6, than things can go south, if he let his RPAL run out .
P.S. Why the hell would this not have been taken care of before he left? and tossing the paper work is not a big deal, but not smart.
Had a gun show up in my name from 1980,s that I had sold, transfer never completed at the other end.
There nothing with this where you need to worry, as long as the owner will call the transfer in simple.
Only problem that could crop up is if the cobra is a 12-6, than things can go south, if he let his RPAL run out .
P.S. Why the hell would this not have been taken care of before he left? and tossing the paper work is not a big deal, but not smart.
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