Kriss Vector Questions

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Restricted vs Non restricted?
9mm vs .45acp?
Something that is better?
Is the fun worth the initial cost?
Am I missing something?

I'm looking at getting a Kriss Vector as my first and most likely only pistol caliber firearm in the foreseeable future as I don't like pistols that much. I'm uncertain if I should get the 18"+ unrestricted or the stock restricted model, most likely in 9mm for cost per round. I have fired a GBB airsoft version so I have some feeling as to how the firearm operates but I would most likely find one at a range to shoot before purchasing. I've looked a the ruger ppc 9, beretta cx4 storm, CZ Scorpin and fx 9 and they don't interest me that much. If anyone has a restricted Alpine White Version laying around I'm interested in how much you might want for it. Also why are there so many of them up for sale with a couple hundred rounds fired through them are they just a terrible? P.S. I asked this on reddit and i'm looking for some input here with a larger community.

Thanks for your time and knowledge.
 
I have both the NR and the R versions. Mine are in 45 ACP but that's because I wanted magazine compatibility with my Glock 21's. Normally for a PCC I think 9mm is the correct choice unless you plan on actually hunting something with it maybe.

The Restricted version is super fun to shoot. The NR version is well..meh. With the Restricted you have a super fast compact and pretty light carbine, that looks cool and handles great. The NR is heavy and kinda boring although with the long barrel it's very soft shooting and quiet. I think lots of the NR versions go up for sale because there are better NR PPC's out there than the NR Kriss, that are light and handy. One of the nice things about the CX4 is that it's almost a bull pup in that the barrel starts way back so even the NR versions are still pretty compact. With the NR Kriss the whole barrel hangs out the front and makes it clubby.

Unless you have an overwhelming desire to use the gun off the range, there is no question I would choose the Restricted version.
 
Ideally I like to configure my firearms as authentically as possible, how the manufacturer designed them and intended them to be sold to their perspective law enforcement and military buyers. So for me I would like to have a 5.5 inch barrelled .45acp selectfire version, but laws and circumstances be damned I make due with 18.6 inch barreled .45acp semi-auto as I reside in rural AB where select fire is prohib and my nearest range is quite a drive and most of my shooting takes place on private property.

Your circumstances and you're ideology of firearm set up will dictate your answers.

If status doesn't matter to you pick whichever one speaks to you. Non-restricted usually holds value better and has more potential buyers, but restricted is far more compact and authentic.

Calibres kind of a personal choice, 45 Auto is what the firearm was originally designed for but with all the factory offerings now I'm sure they all have their place. 9 mm being the cheapest, and 10 mm being the most interesting.

As for the question of if there's something better, how do you quantify better? Better value? Rarer? More expensive? Funner? Funner to whom? Worth the initial cost to whom (firearms are cheap, ammo is expensive.)?

I have had several Kriss vectors over the years spanning a couple different generations and calibres, all NR. They look cool and can be fun to shoot. The best thing they have going for them is that they take pistol mags and do not suffer the 5 round mag limit that so many subguns do. The worst thing they have going for them is their weight in non-restricted size and the fact that their recoil mitigation system that makes them such a unique design is completely wasted on a semi-auto and non distinguishable whatsoever...

I had my Kriss Vector, Evo, and BRS-99 all in non-restricted format out today and coincidentally have decided the sell all 3. Not because they weren't fun, but because I really don't have any purpose for subgun's. In my mind they're irrelevant other than just being for fun when compared to something by the likes of the Q honey badger in .300BLK. If I had to pick one to keep for looks it would be the vector if I had to pick one to keep for fun it would be the evo, and if I had to pick one to keep for practicality and compactness, it would be the BRS-99.

Hope this is help you to come to your own conclusions with your very Broad scoped questions. Haha. Whatever the case pick what makes you happy and if you pick it up used for a fair price you can always turn around and sell it to try something different and not lose your shirt in the process.
 
I have one in 45acp non restricted. I’m sure the 9mm works just fine, but it was designed and engineered as a 45acp. Pretty much have to reload to feed it. Steel out to 100 with a red dot is no problem. I haven’t tried magnified optics on it yet, but a 4x optic would probably be ok too. I do find it a bit heavy with the long barrel and shroud.
 
Gatehouse said:
Unless you have an overwhelming desire to use the gun off the range, there is no question I would choose the Restricted version.
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Thanks for the input, I don't feel like going back to caveman days with swinging clubs to restricted seems like the best way to go.
 
onetwentyish said:
If status doesn't matter to you pick whichever one speaks to you. Non-restricted usually holds value better and has more potential buyers, but restricted is far more compact and authentic.
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I'm looking for firearms that I will be keeping longish term so resale is less important and the authentic look is why I was looking at it in the first place. I'm not sure in what way better would qualify, I'm just grasping at straws to see if something I haven't heard about pops up so I could look into that. The recoil mechanism is not something I'm not considering as a selling feature because it is not going to affect my use of the firearm. It would seem that there are too many fun guns for me to buy so broad questions is all I have right now. Thanks for your helpful reply.
 
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BigRobb said:
I have one in 45acp non restricted. I’m sure the 9mm works just fine, but it was designed and engineered as a 45acp. Pretty much have to reload to feed it. Steel out to 100 with a red dot is no problem. I haven’t tried magnified optics on it yet, but a 4x optic would probably be ok too. I do find it a bit heavy with the long barrel and shroud.
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I saw one for sale with a riffle scope on it so accuracy doesn't seem to be an issue at all, I'm not sure about the difference with the NR vs R versions if there is any noticeable improvement.
 
I went 10mm. More power than the 9 or 45, downside is expensive ammo unless you reload.

That being said, when travelling through grizz country in the wet and snow, it is very reassuring to have.

In the summer my 44 mag lever Japchester gets the nod.

boils down to what you want it for. But they are fine guns in their own right for sure.
 
Got Juice? said:
I went 10mm. More power than the 9 or 45, downside is expensive ammo unless you reload.

That being said, when travelling through grizz country in the wet and snow, it is very reassuring to have.

In the summer my 44 mag lever Japchester gets the nod.

boils down to what you want it for. But they are fine guns in their own right for sure.
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How do you like the 10mm now that (I assume) you've had it for awhile?

Reliability has been good?
 
I have a restricted 9mm vector with the folding stock. It was frustrating at first, a lot of stoppages (like one every 2 mags), but after about 400 rounds it's running smoothly on a consistent basis. I had some buyer's remorse after the first couple range trips but after crossing that hump, it's one of my favourite firearms. Incredibly fun to shoot. I take it with me on each and every range trip, no matter how the day goes shooting, ending with the vector is ending on a high note.

I have fired the 18.5" barrel version, and frankly I wasn't thrilled. It's really front heavy.
 
5.5" .45 ACP Restricted for me, mine is Gen1 so there was no other calibers available at that time. And I do not shoot much outside of ranges so restricted length is more fun to me, and I already owned a Glock 21 so I am able to share my magazines for them
 
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