Failure to feed Sig 1911 22LR

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Hi all,

I just picked up a new Sig Sauer 22LR, on sale from goTenda. I took it to the range for my first shoot, and I had quite a few problems.

First off, when I was loading the magazine, I noticed the ammunition doesn't sit uniform down the length of the clip. It seems that the spacing, no matter how I load it, is jagged. For example, some of the rounds sit at a one degree difference than the other rounds.

The first shot I took was fine, but the second there didn't seem to be a round in the barrel. I cycled the action and the round went into the chamber. I shot the rest of that magazine no problem. The next magazine did the same thing. Second pull of the trigger, click. A round did not make it into the chamber. I cycled the action, and the round entered. This magazine also emptied with no problems. I decided to take things a little more slowly after this, observing everything that I could to try and determine what was happening.

The third magazine I decided to drop the mag after the first shot, inspect the hammer position and see if one made it in. The first shot failed to eject out of the action, and kind of got caught up in there. Happens. But, when I inspected the rounds in the magazine, the next round had a dent in it. I decided to round up all the 22LR off the ground for my father and I were the only ones shooting, and he didn't break out his ruger yet. One of the other rounds that I picked up had a similar dent in pretty much the same spot.

I gave it a good shot of lube and cycled the action fifty times. It seemed to help, but I was still having FTF and ejection issues. Reading about this Sig 1911 online draws me into two conclusions.

1. The ammunition I was using wasn't strong enough to cycle the action all the way back and grab the next round. Not sure why this only would happen on the second round for each magazine, almost every time, but it was.

2. The magazine has too many coils. I read somewhere that a guy had cut five rings of his coil off, and it seemed to resolve his feed issued. This could be true, for when I am loading the magazine, it seems like everything starts going ####-eyed after six rounds loaded.

Does anyone have any suggestions for resolving this issue? I've seen some fellows suggest running a polishing dremel on the surfaces where the carrier meets the gun (sorry, my terminology is quite nubile), but I feel like that might be a last resort.

Thanks for the help everyone,
 
What ammunition were you using and did you clean the pistol before going to the range?

Were these malfunctions happening with the same magazine or were they different magazines?
 
Mine will only function well with CCI mini-mags, I haven’t found anything else yet that works well. Even with that, it’s fussy if it gets dirty (and it’s prone to getting dirty fast if you apply any more than the barest minimum of oil), if the mags aren’t loaded well (I find a few taps of the mag on the bench helps) or if it’s not shot well (it happens more to my kids than me, they have a tendency to limp-wrist the pistol).
 
I.got mine last week.. ran 3 boxes of minimags not one issue.. did you try downloading by 1 round in case it's spring tensions?
 
I did start to load seven rounds instead of ten for it seemed to help, but I still had a couple failures for casings to clear the action while cycling a round (there is porbably a term for this, but I am new to the lingo).

Ammo I bought and was using was the 36 grain, 1280 FPS Winchester for I was able to buy it bulk from Tenda as well.
 
The magazines were different, and didn't seem to be a determining factor of the issues. I was shooting 36 grain, 1280 FPS Winchester, which is the cheapest I could find. Likely an ammunition issue.

I did a take down of the pistol and applied light grease to the slide rails only before going to the range.
 
CCI Minimafs run great. Once it’s broken in the Remington thunderbolts work good too

Once the coloured coating wears off the risks they function better too. You can accelerate this with some emery cloth if you want.
 
versarious said:
I did a take down of the pistol and applied light grease to the slide rails only before going to the range.
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I've had multiple copies of the GSG version of this gun, some can be very ammo specific. The grease comment caught my attention as I use grease on my 9mm but I found on the .22's that was a no go, instead use an oil and run it very wet. Also I found it helpful to take a scotchbrite pad to rails to remove the paint like this video (go to the 27 min mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGNSG-zdCI He uses sandpaper but I was worried that was too abrasive so stuck with a scotchbrite pad and little elbow grease.
 
As above, clean the paint coating off the rails on the slide and frame, oil well after cleaning all the residue. Use higher quality ammunition for the first 1000 rounds, CCI mini-mags are the best compromise for price/quality. Since then I have used American Eagle and Federal 525 bulk packs.
I now have over 10K rounds through my GSG 1911, which is essentially the same pistol.
 
Lots of good suggestions here so far, it may also be how you are holding the pistol when shooting it. Ive noticed with mine that some people, especially new shooters do not hold there arms and wrists locked well enough, allowing there arms or wrists to flex when firing.
This can absorb some of the recoil causing the pistol not to cycle properly. This is a common issue with my pistol, once the shooter holds the gun firmer in their grip, the gun works properly. I use Federal 525 ammo most times, as well as CCI, both with good results.
 
I spent a few hours with my new GSG polishing and cleaning any sliding/touching surfaces with a Dremel and very light abrasives (sanding pads). I even polished the exterior of the barrel for ####s and giggles as I like the "stainless" contrast with the rest of the gun. I also bought an accurising kit with upgraded guide rod, barrel bushing and spring and that works well, I think there's one for the Sig. Oiled it well and it all works well. The slide is so light so anything that hinders movement at all will give you issues. Several hundred mini mags will help it break in too. Usually I end up putting a bore snake through it if it's a long range session too.
 
Thanks so much for this video. Going to dedicate the next couple nights to making sure I follow these steps. Still reviewing, but seems like a combination of this should allow my gun to work properly. Thanks!
 
I second the scotch brite cleaning. I don't own one of these myself yet, but will be purchasing one, so I've spent probably hours researching. The coating on the rails of the slide and frame will stop it from cycling properly when using cheaper ammo (like Winchester). By far, the most recommended ammunition to use for at least the break in, is CCI minimags. I've heard the cheapest winchester ammo is terrible in these guns, but once broken in, it becomes a lot less picky, and federal byob and other cheaper rounds can be used.
 
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