Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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In the past the NDP rural voters have had some pro gun influence, but that was a different NDP. Still, any hope... One thing about politics is it is all about what you can deliver in support. You don't want to rely on some NDP support for some bill and find they can't deliver. So confidence has some effect also. You want to do the things that are 100% for sure.
 
The liberals bailed on electoral reform when they had a majority. There’s a strong chance the “assault weapon” ban will be abandoned. It would cost them a lot of political capital in a minority government that they likely need for other issues.
 
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At this point Trudeau is running behind Sheer in the popular vote. But you will probably still get the CBC and others making noise over Trumps 2% loss in the pop vote, while our guy represents less than a third of the country and may enter into a confidence arrangement with a dude whose party is less popular than ever and who lost 38 percent of his seats. With this resounding victory they will govern like dictators, and not even hold back from scolding the rest of us with their fashionable opinions.

It is stunning to look at an electoral map. Yes there are huge patches of red up north, as if polar bears enjoyed the franchise. But other than Manitoba and the old age homes in the east, you can hardly find Liberal red, across the country. Of course they grabbed TO, the all-important spec on the overall map.

My mom is in a retirement home in NB, and they were working the votes of people who remember voting Liberal, in the good old days, even if they remember little else...
 
gaston111 said:
The liberals bailed on electoral reform when they had a majority. There’s a strong chance the “assault weapon” ban will be abandoned. It would cost them a lot of political capital in a minority government that they likely need for other issues.
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It was a top three campaign promise, and likely the easiest one for them to accomplish. They will see this as a quick legislative win - even if there is overwhelming non-compliance, they will point to legislation and say, "look how safe we are now, there hasn't been a mass shooting since the ban, but there's still work to do (handguns), vote for us". Laws changed in New Zealand almost overnight.
 
Marksmen1987 said:
It was a top three campaign promise, and likely the easiest one for them to accomplish. They will see this as a quick legislative win - even if there is overwhelming non-compliance, they will point to legislation and say, "look how safe we are now, there hasn't been a mass shooting since the ban, but there's still work to do (handguns), vote for us". Laws changed in New Zealand almost overnight.
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Laws changed in New Zealand almost overnight as a guttural reaction to a legitimate tragedy. Thankfully, we haven't had that kind of tragedy here. The Liberals have yet to demonstrate to the Canadian public an actual measurable Improvement to Public Safety by confiscating or banning guns. It's not going to cost $60 to bring their plan to fruition. It'll probably cost half a billion dollars. That's a hard sell for something with no tangible benefit. My pleasure
 
anton520b said:
Moving to the US is definitely an option on the table. Just spoke to my family about it and there was no real resistance to the idea.
Getting a sick feeling in my stomach thinking how things will unfold in the following four years.
Not only we lose almost all firearms (except bolt actions), but we also lose handgun collections "en masse".
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But will the US take you? What's your skill level, qualifications? Not as easy as you may think.
 
Honestly everyone I know a lot of people are disappointed but the fact is liberals lost power. I don’t think a gun grab will be high on their list of priorities. The best thing we can do now is put up as much of a legal fight as we can and show our support for the hobby we all love. Minority governments don’t last long . We will be there again with a unified front .
 
BCreserveMP said:
Laws changed in New Zealand almost overnight as a guttural reaction to a legitimate tragedy. Thankfully, we haven't had that kind of tragedy here. The Liberals have yet to demonstrate to the Canadian public an actual measurable Improvement to Public Safety by confiscating or banning guns. It's not going to cost $60 to bring their plan to fruition. It'll probably cost half a billion dollars. That's a hard sell for something with no tangible benefit. My pleasure
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Is it that hard of a sell this government? This government has already run a deficit that’s twice as big as the one they said they would run in the last election and people haven’t batted an eye. Instead they have re-elected him
 
BCreserveMP said:
Laws changed in New Zealand almost overnight as a guttural reaction to a legitimate tragedy. Thankfully, we haven't had that kind of tragedy here. The Liberals have yet to demonstrate to the Canadian public an actual measurable Improvement to Public Safety by confiscating or banning guns. It's not going to cost $60 to bring their plan to fruition. It'll probably cost half a billion dollars. That's a hard sell for something with no tangible benefit. My pleasure
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I agree with much of what you have said in this thread. However, all it will take is some piece of crap to commit a mass shooting, like the one in Quebec City, and the ban talk will resurface and face little opposition with this newly formed government.
 
I've got a bad feeling they're going to prohibit the firearms in question first, and only then pay us for our turned in firearms based on prohibited weapon prices. Nickels on the dollar. Financial ruin for some, but what do they care?
 
PECHENEG said:
I really like Canada... the way it was... and unfortunately next step is True North Republic via wexit
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Im sorry but symbols like this, with guns as the main element, just make any sort of western sentiment appear synonymous with neo-nazi views as far as the left are concerned.

As a right-winger myself, the inability for many on the right to state their opinions without being overtly aggressive is a piss-off because it makes everyone on the right look like an a$$hat.





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As far as the theme of this thread. I think it will take some time for the buy-back to materialize, if it does anytime soon, and what gets considered will be so arbitrarily determined by some silly uneducated politicians that making any predictions about what it looks like isn't worth it.

You can be sure that, no matter the buyback value, the plan will be extraordinarily expensive for the country, and taxpayers, including ourselves... Maybe we should be entitled to a tax break for this? Not having to pay taxes to buyback our own firearms? lol. And we can be sure and value paid by the feds will be dissappointing in almost every case.

Whatever happened to Trudeau's promise of electoral reform in the 2015 election? That would have been the most beneficial thing he could have done... We'd be sitting here with a different result tonight, you can be certain.
 
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