Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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The gun control will probably be the first thing on the agenda. If you are a political party in a minority government looking for a coalition; you are more than likely going to pursue that with the party that has similar views (NDP) and tackle the issues that you both agree on quickly. Leaving other points of the platform which do not overlap for the rest of the term to figure out.
 
canuckchap said:
The result was not what we hoped for, but there are still some outcomes that we can view as positive.
Conservatives WON the popular vote...this has value.
Conservatives swept effectively the west. This has value. Trudeau will be forced to (as long as CON hold their feet to the fire) to acknowledge that there are distinct differences in Canada.
This is a weak government, and if history tells us anything will likely fall in 18-24 months.

There is still some hope that doomsday might pass....
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The payback value would be packed with irony if a non-confidence vote, set up by the Conservatives, would give Trudeau the boot. Joe Clark might have a stroke from the sheer joy of it! Though the Liberal/NDP coalition is going to be a tough nut to crack.
 
Sylvertiger said:
The gun control will probably be the first thing on the agenda. If you are a political party in a minority government looking for a coalition; you are more than likely going to pursue that with the party that has similar views (NDP) and tackle the issues that you both agree on quickly. Leaving other points of the platform which do not overlap for the rest of the term to figure out.
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I agree,gun control part is the easiest promise that can be kept and it will happy the voters in GTA area.
 
ChrisWhaaaat said:
Im sorry but symbols like this, with guns as the main element, just make any sort of western sentiment appear synonymous with neo-nazi views as far as the left are concerned.

As a right-winger myself, the inability for many on the right to state their opinions without being overtly aggressive is a piss-off because it makes everyone on the right look like an a$$hat.





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As far as the theme of this thread. I think it will take some time for the buy-back to materialize, if it does anytime soon, and what gets considered will be so arbitrarily determined by some silly uneducated politicians that making any predictions about what it looks like isn't worth it.

You can be sure that, no matter the buyback value, the plan will be extraordinarily expensive for the country, and taxpayers, including ourselves... Maybe we should be entitled to a tax break for this? Not having to pay taxes to buyback our own firearms? lol. And we can be sure and value paid by the feds will be dissappointing in almost every case.

Whatever happened to Trudeau's promise of electoral reform in the 2015 election? That would have been the most beneficial thing he could have done... We'd be sitting here with a different result tonight, you can be certain.
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well, I understand your concern, but having guns as a symbol of freedom has nothing to do with nazzis in my opinion. healthy people will view it in a right way. and liberoids will view us as neonazzis no matter what and how you do it... it is their existential hate towards right... nothing can be done about it , except civilised separation. however, if most people in wexit think that using symbolic freedom guns is wrong, I will be willing to accept it and again I respect your opinion and will think about it.
 
Milanczar said:
Get over it Bernier is not coming back. :)

Scheer did a great job. People who don't pull their head out of the Liberal cloud or turn off the CBC will have to realize that he is not going anywhere.

Perhaps those who do not like it can get started on PPC 2 - the sequel right now to help Justin third time around like happened this time.
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I think it's a little oversimplification to say Scheer did a great job. He didn't. He made some critical errors.

1. He spurned the Rebel,,,,most readers are his power base
2. He had David Menzies arrested at a CPC rally. I saw CPC votes go to PPC. Votes that could have won CPC seats.
3. He waffled on pro-gun side. He needs to woo the firearms owners without hesitation.
4. He didn't make himself different from Trudeau. Every time he made an announcement, the mean ladies from CBC would attack him and he backed down

He needs to get a spine, define how he is different from Trudeau, and stick with it.

Nobody likes a waffler.

On a side note, those who voted PPC probably lost CPC some seats. Although it may have made you feel good, it was a dumb move, plain and simple.
 
NDP or Bloc can make legislation happen, NDP has a large rural component, they didnt do well and likely wont tick off their base. Question is how many RPALs in northern Ontario etc?
AR15 probably gone- sks and other centrefire autoloaders might be safe for the time being.

Oh and Toronto voters you suck( just thought id get that off my chest)
 
AB and Sask might as well not even vote. Our votes don't matter, it's all about Ontario and Quebec. Always has been and always will be. Even when Harper was in he only paid a little bit more lip service to us than the libtards. It's about numbers and what it takes to get into power and stay there. Plain and simple. We don't have the numbers so we don't matter.
 
ericrose said:
We're f&%ked.
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That’s defeatism, it’s cowardice and it’s the reason why our community is weak.

If you hold a valid PAL it is your moral duty to not comply with oppressive laws that jeopardize your freedom.

If standing up to this totalitarian regime means court battles, protests, jail time for non compliance, that’s just the price of freedom unfortunately.

Freedom isn’t free and never will be.
 
Together in non-compliance we are too strong, if every single lawful gun owner or even a large perecentage refuses to comply, the government will have nowhere near the resources it needs to confiscate that many guns.

We have the real power in this country but those with yellow bellies like ericrose will lead us into the dark abyss of disarmament.
 
Fastxr said:
Wouldn't going to jail for a firearms related charge cost you your firearms anyway?
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If the government tries to send 60,000 previously productive members of society who happen to own AR15’s to jail over non compliance. There will be some serious human rights concern asked of our government.
 
Ravage said:
Pretty unimpressed with the Manitoba vote not understanding their Liberal and NDP love.
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Look at the demographic. It's similar to where I live. JW Raybolts Father said Conservatives are racist on National news and that's the opinion of most in the same demographic group. The irony is that their living situation has not improved in the last 4 years, it has become worse.
 
Armed Hippie said:
That’s defeatism, it’s cowardice and it’s the reason why our community is weak.

If you hold a valid PAL it is your moral duty to not comply with oppressive laws that jeopardize your freedom.

If standing up to this totalitarian regime means court battles, protests, jail time for non compliance, that’s just the price of freedom unfortunately.

Freedom isn’t free and never will be.
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To counsel someone to break the law is unwise.

All we need is to get going in the same direction. Unfortunately, firearms owners aren't the most rational thinkers, and they run off in all directions ergo the one who voted ppc. What a stupid move that was!

We will probably have another election in 18 months, so start planning now. As soon as the CPC candidate is nominated, get in and bend their ear. Convince them that the firearms file is an important one. Offer help, and particularly money. Remember, you get 75% of it back.

Don't despair
 
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