Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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madashell said:
Save your smart a** jokes.

You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. Sounds like you'll find that out soon enough.
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You're right. Breakpoint isn't doing so well.

Hopefully video games won't be the only time we get to play around modifying them and ####.

But you still havent came up with a plan. It seems like you're quick to complain and vent. Is that all you're going to do up until you drive over to the police station and drop your guns off or are you going to do something more proactive than be angry and call names?
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Exactly. What is moral, right and just....and what is legal are not always the same thing. In fact rarely the same thing when dealing with corrupt government.
That is why many good, honest people in this country are no longer shamed in the least by not following the law.
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I can't understand how the Prime Minister can break the law with impunity and not have the police step in. Isn't there a separation between the legislative and enforcement branches?

Surely someone out there knows how to have charges brought against him. If not, we live in a lawless dictatorship, and I don't believe that to be the case.

How far we have fallen in such a short time!
 
Neurotoxic said:
Whenever I see these arguments, I remember how it went with my wife when I brought up the idea that I wanted to have my RPAL and buy a handgun.

She doesn't know anything about guns other than: they're dangerous and she doesn't like them. We just had a kid. She doesn't like violent movies. What's going on in the States on a regular basis scares her. She doesn't find it's "manly" to shoot a big gun.

Right off the bat, my chances were near zero.

I had to take some time. Bring up the subject casually. Explain concepts. Explain how strict it is, how safe guns can be when handled properly. Compare with race cars -- they're fun, but they don't belong in the street and it's like with guns, I'll go to the range. I had to be patient. I had to be open to discussion. Most importantly, I had to be ready to reach a compromise.

Just saying it's my right wouldn't have worked. Defending the house isn't a valid argument when the gun is supposedly properly stored in a locked room with a trigger lock -- if that gun is easily accessible in an emergency, our kid could find a way to get to it. She's not dumb either and knows we must live with each other in society -- pretending I have some virile natural right to own guns that surpasses our common laws would have made her laugh.

Now, you see, my wife's view isn't uncommon. And if you plan on using inflexible, hardcore arguments in public in an attempt to protect your privileges, you will fail.

If, ultimately, our goal is to preserve our privilege to own guns and take them to the range or hunting, we need to be ready to accept filling out some more paperwork, go through more rigorous background checks, and tone down quite a bit when we discuss our hobby.

But if this is all about defending non-existing god-given rights, or if you think the Liberals are a tyranny, then I'm out and wish you well on your future BB-gun endeavours.
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yea. I think you're right when it comes to shmoozing over the general public.
 
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Doug The Canuck said:
I can't understand how the Prime Minister can break the law with impunity and not have the police step in. Isn't there a separation between the legislative and enforcement branches?

Surely someone out there knows how to have charges brought against him. If not, we live in a lawless dictatorship, and I don't believe that to be the case.

How far we have fallen in such a short time!
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I have some ideas.

1. Police deal with politics and various forms of pressure.ive heard of more than a few stories of military police being told to leave something alone or having higher up put an end to an investigation without reason. Im guessing civilian police face the same issues.

2. People didn't care, especially from Toronto and Quebec.
He ###ually assaulted a woman and people defended him saying we all do stupid things when we're younger.
Blackface- we all do stupid things when we're (29 year old) "kids".
SNC? He's a hero to a lot of Quebecers because money and jobs are more important than ethics. Even though jobs weren't exactly on the line. Snc is French so a French vs English thing.

3. Fear tactics. Scheer was going to make abortion lillehal and ban ### marriage, only Trudeau could save us so even of you didn't lkke what he did hold your nose and vote for him.

4. Conservatives are racist alt right anti-immigration Nazis. With military style assault rifle weapons.


It was a campaign of fear and disinformation geared towards people who really don't give a #### about morals and ethics if it's not directly impacting them.

Thats why he's still pm.
 
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If only we had got rid of the CBC, forced the media to be honest (yeah I know, good luck!) and stacked the senate! Harper was good but he really fumbled it near the end of his run as PM. He could've filled the senate from wall to wall with CPC but nope. The independents then proceed to screw us real good with the last round of gun control. The whole point of having a senate is sober second thought but as it turns out? They were all heavily intoxicated or sleeping on the job!

We had our golden opportunity....
 
Voting just gave you a minority liberal government.
Every day that goes by voters forget about Trudeau's scandals.
Scheer, whom not many Conservatives seem to like, decided he's going to stay on as party leader. He cost us a number of votes.

You might need a plan B. After you figure out how to inject more substance in your correspondence than just yelling troll.

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So everything boils down to “let’s be politically correct” no matter what.
Than what’s the point of voting?
Seems like the main course of politics are always the same (leftist/snowflake) no matter who rides us.
Every freak in this country has rights (based on feelings of course and not on the facts) except gun owners.
What happened to our rights? Is this democracy we live in or modern totalitarian regime?
If we let them do this, what’s next? Another shooting and than total gun ban?
Who wants to live in country like this? I’m moving to US!
 
GuiltySpark said:
Voting just gave you a minority liberal government.
Every day that goes by voters forget about Trudeau's scandals.
Scheer, whom not many Conservatives seem to like, decided he's going to stay on as party leader. He cost us a number of votes.

You might need a plan B. After you figure out how to inject more substance in your correspondence than just yelling troll.

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Why? Now we are going to blame Scheer? That’s pretty low.
My question is how did LIBTARDS win this time if they were defeated miserably not long ago?
Find that strange? I do.
How about using pencils to vote? Nowhere in the world pencils are used for voting. Only in Canada. Unreal!
 
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BG011 said:
Why? Now we are going to blame Scheer? That’s pretty low.
My question is how did LIBTARDS win this time if they were defeated miserably not long ago?
Find that strange? I do.
How about using pencils to vote? Nowhere in the world pencils are used for voting. Only in Canada. Unreal!
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He was by no means my favorite. I kinda despised him for a minute but I know the media loves to lie so I honestly had no idea whether to believe him or not. So I used my brain and decided "pick your poison". Maxime had no way to win. Libs are frothing at the mouth to take what's ours. NDP is even worse. I won't even bother with the other parties because they are even more anti gun.

That's the problem of so many voters. Yes it sucks and I willingly concede any day this election was a total crap-shoot. Too many people however forget one crucial thing:

You don't look for saints among the ranks of politicians!!!

So instead of rolling the dice like many voters (gun owners and many NON-gun owners) did carelessly? I went for CPC. They were the only ones that had a shred of hope for us.

Just ranting here but some people were acting like Oct 21st was a fun night at the casino and gambled recklessly instead of making the smart bet with our nation's future.
 
TylerM said:
. .... this election was a total crap-shoot..
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The polls from a year ago made it very clear that Andrew Scheer wasn't going to move the needle. Canadians don't have a good track record of throwing out first-time majority governments right away, anyways. Trudeau's re-election was in the cards, and certainly right in the polls.

We had a solid year to come up with a plan, ideally one better than to just sit around and wait for the CPC to do something. The 'vanilla act' got the CPC as far as it could, but it wasn't enough for the W.

PPC got crushed between Quebec's hatred of conservatism and Alberta's hatred of French Leaders... and then sprinkled with MSM's progressive 'hateful Nazis' pixie dust on top, haha!


Gun owners never had a political solution to our problem.


TBH, our biggest problem was our politics.
 
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GuiltySpark said:
I can tell you the utopia isn't under the Conservative government. They were in power for 10 years and didn't really challange or change anything firearms related.

They simply enjoy being the defacto gun owners only friendly political party. They just have to maintain the status quo and not change anything and they'll still be the gun owners party. Pretty shady if you ask me.
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It's simply net negative politics. It's always a slow but steady loss of freedoms. Simply maintaining something for a few years while being guaranteed to lose it or something else important the next isn't viable.

That's the boat we're in. Inevitably losing your freedoms to a mass of imbeciles that want free stuff, that's it.
 
Tyockell18 said:
It's simply net negative politics. It's always a slow but steady loss of freedoms. Simply maintaining something for a few years while being guaranteed to lose it or something else important the next isn't viable.

That's the boat we're in. Inevitably losing your freedoms to a mass of imbeciles that want free stuff, that's it.
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Well said!

We are loosing our freedoms and that’s a fact. What bothers me is that no one is willing to do anything about it.
Watch, another gang related shooting will happen, unfortunately, and that’s all it takes to definitely push for handgun and semi auto rifle ban. Now my prediction is SKS will be used this time. Watch...
How did get here?
Why is our government looking at us, legal gun owners as potential criminals, mass murderers...? What is going on here?
 
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