New Sidearms for my employees?

What handgun should I choose

  • Smith and Wesson M&P

    Votes: 99 23.5%

  • Glock

    Votes: 144 34.2%

  • Beretta

    Votes: 15 3.6%

  • Sig Sauer

    Votes: 132 31.4%

  • Sprinfield

    Votes: 23 5.5%

  • Walther

    Votes: 8 1.9%
  • Total voters
    421
  • Poll closed .
Strangeday, you're the only person here likely to own every eligible pistol, why don't you just take them to the range for a few days and choose the one that you like - you can write off the range membership, the ammo, and bill yourself for the use of the guns. There's nothing like having the government pay for your range time :rockOn:

Oh, and don't forget to charge yourself a 'consulting fee', firearms evaluation is beyond the normal requirements of a company president.
 
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KevinB said:
Anything but Beretta.

due to the typical poor training of armer security - get the the perfect stupid persons gun -> Glock: pull gun, squeeze trigger - repeat as necessary, reholster.

I'd prefer Sig - but I think the decock and the double/single transition is too much for the typical wank to handle.
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I agree, your guards are probably only trained with the basics. I took such course one time & it really is basic. if these guys and gals have fair size hands, then go with the glock 22. if they don't clean the guns like an enthusiast, then you want a simple gun that works if they ever need to pull that trigger at a bad guy !!!!!

And please motivate them to get out and practice their shooting, draw, looking for cover, soft or hard, watching their backstop and checking their 6, etc...

I can give them some training, if you like :D

Cheers,
 
Question seems weird to me.................
Isn't this a bit like your mechanic asking his transmission expert what type of shocks to use?
 
roadwarrior said:
For security guard purposes, what's wrong with revolvers?
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limited shots, hard to reload under stress and so on... plus a semi auto can be tailored for left or right handed people as well as some can be tailored for the size of the hand of the user. Basically a semiauto is ambi dextrous and easier for "all" people to learn.

a semiauto is much easier to train on, especially a glock or a pistol with a decock only safety with a revolver like first trigger pull.

speaking of which, why not look into the ruger KP89DC or ruger KP90DC models.... they are proven reliable and are in use with several police forces in the USA.

frankly, I like glocks.... but some people have problems with them from a safety aspect, the M&P is a great gun to but lack of time in service would rule it out for me, sig, beretta, HK and so on would rule out because of price.
 
strange day where is the option for gold plated desert eagles if you make them p[ay for part of it i belieave they can deduct it from they're taxes
 
Westicle said:
limited shots, hard to reload under stress and so on... plus a semi auto can be tailored for left or right handed people as well as some can be tailored for the size of the hand of the user. Basically a semiauto is ambi dextrous and easier for "all" people to learn.

a semiauto is much easier to train on, especially a glock or a pistol with a decock only safety with a revolver like first trigger pull.
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You've brought up some good points, but:

1-I wonder how many security guards have had to "reload under stress" in the last decade.

2-"Easier for all people to learn" and "train on" I doubt that very much. For function and cleaning, you can't get more basic then a revolver...

3- You have a valid point in regards of interchangeable grips and ambi dextrous features.

As a buisiness, I wonder if point #3 warrents the switch to semi's and I wonder how well the workers are going to handle/maintain the more complexe/sensitive firearms. These guys are not SWAT, not taking away from what they do, but still something to bear in mind...

But then again, the boss wants to make the switch, so I'm sorry for wasting your time guys. :cool:
 
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Westicle said:
why not look into the ruger KP89DC or ruger KP90DC models...they are proven reliable and are in use with several police forces in the USA...frankly, I like glocks.... but some people have problems with them from a safety aspect
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I voted SIG, but after thinking about it i believe the Glock would be a better choice for your people.

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Can these security guards or armoured car employees use a mag with more than 10 rounds or are they restricted like the rest of us?
 
Mike K said:
Glocks are idiot proof and easy to fix.
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Nothing is idiot proof...

Rotek said:
This is a tougher question than you might think at first.There is a lot more
involved than "this is my favorite so it should be yours to".
Your spending your own money not the city's or what ever.
I have some questions first.
How much training will they receive and will they have to qualify on a regular basis.
The reason I ask is will the guard be instructed on and then trained to the point of compentancy on Sympathetic reaction.While I love the glock
for its ease of use it is also the reason that I would hesitate to issue to
lightly or improperly trained users.There is a reason that a lot Police dept
issue DAO pistols(civli liability and political correctness is only part of it).
My Personal choices are 1911 or Glock because of the ease of use with one hand.Dont forget he /she would probably be holding on the the money bag with his non dominant hand.But that would be for someone with proper training.
Not just basic use on saftey,holstering,basic marksmenship.
You may want to look at some of the DAO options.any way
good luck with this.
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... if it's time to gun-fight, it's time to drop the money-bag!!! This isn't an IPSC stage or something from some mall-ninja fantasy - it's life and death and the money bag is just dead weight. It's only cash and they make more of it every day...


blake
 
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FirstBMW said:
EVERY LEO ND in Ontario has been with the Glock.There have been no NDs (last 10 years) with the Sig.

Not slamming the Glock, it is a fine gun.
BUT, you must pull the trigger to take off the slide.

Not so with the Sig.
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EVERY LEO ND in Ontario has been with the Glock. Yes - every one that resulted in personal injury...

There have been no NDs (last 10 years) with the Sig. Not so - there have been several that I have been witness to (so there have certainly been more), just none that resulted in injury to person or property...


blake
 
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