Trudeau's Gun Ban and Buy Back

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lxCaucassus said:
I think they biggest problem in politics right now is that you can't please both the rest and the West.
They're interests are contradictory.

They're are hereby in Quebec and Ontario that believe, legitimately, that Alberta is an immoral province, because it's based on oil.
And Oil is killing the planet.
Therefore if Alberta is punished for participating in this great evil of the oil industry, they deserve it for guy having "better" jobs. They want the oil industry to die and to keep the oil "in the ground" forever, and if the Alberta economy tanks, it's true own fault for not "transitioning" earlier and participating in the "6th mass extinction". Alberta deserves to be punished.

They wish vote Tory which is just adding icing on the cake of evil.

The east does not care of Alberta dies, even when they take the 20 billion in equalization payments from oil money to fund their healthcare and social services.

They want Alberta to either change radically, or simply to end and be "dragged into the modern age kicking and Screaming"

Albertans obviously don't want their economy to collapse and want to do the organdy thing and, you know, transport oil by pipeline instead of two and furnish the country with the resources or needs new instead of trying to become an impossible utopian Paradise we literally don't have the technology for yet.

One side wants to not become destitute
The other wants to punish Alberta for having the temerity to have oil.

The Liberals have become the party of Montreal and Toronto. Cities that don't want to know how the sausage is made, but want to ban all food because they heard it's evil
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Just adding this: I'm in Ontario with about 2 or 3 million (or more) other Conservatives. I think the way the government is treating the west is abysmal. I think the way we're ignoring our resources is abysmal. I think when we let some of our fellow Canadians linger in desperation we're disrespecting the future and the promise of everything that Canada stands for.

Unfortunately, our votes don't seem to count for much right now. But, know that it's not always an East vs. West thing. It's a 'progressive' vs everyone else thing. We just happen to be swamped with 'progressives' right now.

Thesis. Antithesis. Synthesis. Their day will end and sanity will be restored. Hope we all can make it to that day.
 
Things will only get worse and worse, unless the criminal JT is dealt with once and for all.

"OPEN AND TRANSPARENT: A ministerial briefing on the Trudeau government’s corrupt establishment media bailout has been redacted.

Not just one page. Not just a few pages. Not just parts of certain pages.

The ENTIRE document."

What is JT hiding?


https://twitter.com/NatCitizens/status/1189546364658696197


Alberta either leaves or dries up and blows away in the west wind.


Citadel Drilling moves all its rigs to the U.S.

'It's the smart thing to do'

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/top...iller-moves-all-its-rigs-to-the-us/ar-AAJzRuE
 
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Canadian whistle blower stats Trudeau government took massive amounts of money from Saudi Arabia in exchange for the shutdown of the Alberta oil fields increasing foreign oil imports

But whistle blowers only have a stage when it’s against trump
 
protekyerneck said:
Canadian whistle blower stats Trudeau government took massive amounts of money from Saudi Arabia in exchange for the shutdown of the Alberta oil fields increasing foreign oil imports

But whistle blowers only have a stage when it’s against trump
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I wouldn’t be surprised. How about George Soros?

MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN

Let’s impeach drama teacher...drama queen...
 
You don’t think similar things were happening while Jean Chrétien was in power?
They all have to “agree” with masters of puppets.
 
So when can we assume that the ar15 ban is effectively dead in the water?

By that I mean, when can we assume that because of the minority government, the Liberals won’t have enough backers for their bill?
 
Donster 125 said:
So when can we assume that the ar15 ban is effectively dead in the water?

By that I mean, when can we assume that because of the minority government, the Liberals won’t have enough backers for their bill?
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Unfortunately if Trudeau really wants to pass this, he can do it in a heart beat. Between the NDP, Bloc and Greens backing him with votes and the "mystery" prohib section in bill c-71 he is one single OIC away from banning the AR15 and tossing it into that unknown category . We are royally F****D and there is NOTHING we can do except for mass non compliance.
 
cras111 said:
LOL, what a primitive.
Who hired you and how much you get paid for trolling ?
You better get out of this place b.cause your cover’s been blown here by many, and you don’t even get it. ok
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Hired?
Blown cover? Laugh2Laugh2
What an i.diot!
 
mmcintyre1220 said:
Unfortunately if Trudeau really wants to pass this, he can do it in a heart beat. Between the NDP, Bloc and Greens backing him with votes and the "mystery" prohib section in bill c-71 he is one single OIC away from banning the AR15 and tossing it into that unknown category . We are royally F****D and there is NOTHING we can do except for mass non compliance.
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Mass non compliance is a great idea, if it comes to that, this is Alberta not Ottawa!
 
This new guy has been on CGN for 9 days now and has accumulated 21 posts all political and is calling regular posters i.diot's.

I stand corrected, He did make a post about reloading but it was so full of holes, it would sink in a minute..... Guess mom left the computer on when se went to work.....

:jerkit:
 
Donster 125 said:
So when can we assume that the ar15 ban is effectively dead in the water?

By that I mean, when can we assume that because of the minority government, the Liberals won’t have enough backers for their bill?
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Never. For as long as Canada has a government, there will be bed wetters begging the government to ban things in the name of public safety. We can never assume that we are safe.

mmcintyre1220 said:
Unfortunately if Trudeau really wants to pass this, he can do it in a heart beat. Between the NDP, Bloc and Greens backing him with votes and the "mystery" prohib section in bill c-71 he is one single OIC away from banning the AR15 and tossing it into that unknown category . We are royally F****D and there is NOTHING we can do except for mass non compliance.
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There is no mystery or unknown prohib section in bill C-71. At least not for anyone who read the bill. There is only one prohibited class, and it is found in the criminal code. All that the firearms act contains is a list of people who could be eligible for owning particular prohibited firearms.

The power to ban AR-15s by OIC (as well as grandfathering them) has existed since the beginning of the firearms act, and it is this very power which made ARs Restricted by name in the first place. IF the Liberals truly wanted to ban AR-15s they could have done so within 15 minutes of any of the last major tragedies that could have been used as an excuse.

The criminal code prohibits the government from using OIC powers to prohibit anything that has a sporting purpose. If and when ARs get banned, it will be because the gun community has simply failed to prove hunting and sport shooting is a legitimate sporting purpose, just like when our community failed to convince the government that ARs and handguns have a legitimate hunting purpose when we allowed the government to restrict them in the first place.

The simply fact that ARs haven't already been banned should be taken as proof that the Liberals don't actually want to ban anything. They just want to get credit for talking tough about it to secure votes.
 
Cameron SS said:
The simply fact that ARs haven't already been banned should be taken as proof that the Liberals don't actually want to ban anything. They just want to get credit for talking tough about it to secure votes.
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I tend to share this belief. (In my less paranoid moments...) Talk is cheap. Picking a fight with 2 million taxpayers can get loud and ugly.

Especially given that so many of us are loud and ugly...
 
Cameron SS said:
...There is no mystery or unknown prohib section in bill C-71. At least not for anyone who read the bill. There is only one prohibited class, and it is found in the criminal code. All that the firearms act contains is a list of people who could be eligible for owning particular prohibited firearms.

The power to ban AR-15s by OIC (as well as grandfathering them) has existed since the beginning of the firearms act, and it is this very power which made ARs Restricted by name in the first place. IF the Liberals truly wanted to ban AR-15s they could have done so within 15 minutes of any of the last major tragedies that could have been used as an excuse.

The criminal code prohibits the government from using OIC powers to prohibit anything that has a sporting purpose. If and when ARs get banned, it will be because the gun community has simply failed to prove hunting and sport shooting is a legitimate sporting purpose, just like when our community failed to convince the government that ARs and handguns have a legitimate hunting purpose when we allowed the government to restrict them in the first place.

The simply fact that ARs haven't already been banned should be taken as proof that the Liberals don't actually want to ban anything. They just want to get credit for talking tough about it to secure votes.
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Generally like your posts but going to disagree with you on this one for the following reasons:

1) They banned the AR15 already and only stopped and made it restricted because of service rifle and it being a recognized competition. They restricted them so they could claim that they can't be used for hunting. They can and are, but not here because the Government decided so. Good luck convincing a government that has a vested interest in ignoring your arguments. You could be 100 percent correct but they come out ahead if they don't listen and just do what they want. It's not a reflection on firearm owners, but of the will of the government. They have no issue with banning these. You are correct it's about votes but not just that. Handguns would have resulted in even more votes. Smuggled handguns are the weapon of choice for criminals. Yet they are going after semi autos? Semi autos pose a threat eventually to a government and their agents that go against the population. Semi autos aren't usually a threat to the population. Plus they look scary so it's an easy push by them, regardless of actual facts.1

2) Yes they can prohibit the AR15 by OIC. Likely they will. However what is 12(9) prohibited class? you state there isn't an unknown class. Yet that seems to come about from C71 and there seems to be no information on it. The only reason for that one to actually exist that I can see is for a semi auto classification. Individually they could just OIC them. But with a 12(9) prohibited section you can ban an entire class of firearm rather than one at a time.

Am I wrong about this? If so, how? Thanks.
 
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bush1 said:
This new guy has been on CGN for 9 days now and has accumulated 21 posts all political and is calling regular posters i.diot's.

I stand corrected, He did make a post about reloading but it was so full of holes, it would sink in a minute..... Guess mom left the computer on when se went to work.....

:jerkit:
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What’s full of holes?
What are you talking about?
Why don’t you ask me if you wanna know
something instead of speculating that I’m a troll or I don’t know what?
Just because I’m new here and I talk about politics some of you automatically think I’m a troll. How f... shallow.
Yes I called him an idiot because he is an idiot. Him and anyone else who thinks I’m a troll.
All my post are political. That’s true. This topic is political. Isn’t it? This is the way I discuss politics. If you don’t like it don’t read my posts. I’m not politically correct.
All these restrictions, gun bans, carbon taxes, dope legalization, invention of 150
Genders, politically correct utopia mind set and even more crap coming our way is a product of partially docile and partially dumbed sheeple. The ones who think you are conspiracy theory junky if you say something that doesn’t align with current trend.
 
Cameron SS said:
Never. For as long as Canada has a government, there will be bed wetters begging the government to ban things in the name of public safety. We can never assume that we are safe.



There is no mystery or unknown prohib section in bill C-71. At least not for anyone who read the bill. There is only one prohibited class, and it is found in the criminal code. All that the firearms act contains is a list of people who could be eligible for owning particular prohibited firearms.

The power to ban AR-15s by OIC (as well as grandfathering them) has existed since the beginning of the firearms act, and it is this very power which made ARs Restricted by name in the first place. IF the Liberals truly wanted to ban AR-15s they could have done so within 15 minutes of any of the last major tragedies that could have been used as an excuse.

The criminal code prohibits the government from using OIC powers to prohibit anything that has a sporting purpose. If and when ARs get banned, it will be because the gun community has simply failed to prove hunting and sport shooting is a legitimate sporting purpose, just like when our community failed to convince the government that ARs and handguns have a legitimate hunting purpose when we allowed the government to restrict them in the first place.

The simply fact that ARs haven't already been banned should be taken as proof that the Liberals don't actually want to ban anything. They just want to get credit for talking tough about it to secure votes.
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Yup This is your thing here .....

Your shtick....

Making irresponsible pronunciations and fictional prognostications which only gull people into false hopes so that you can get them blindsided.

Nothing to see or worry about here folks.........just close your eyes, ignore reality and what is really happening.

Listen to the broken record guy telling you not to worry......hey! What could go wrong??? ;) :)
 
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