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Democrats paid off media (liberals here) and their vehement bashing of AR-15 "deadly assault weapon" that shouldn't be in the hands of citizens just proved to be a life saving tool where a pregnant woman saved her husband and her daughter by firing at armed robbers who were kicking her husband in the head asking for money. This woman would have probably ended up in prison for using AR-15 if she were Canadian. The youtube video link is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYD4Zj2eotw
 
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I wish I could find it now but it eludes my search capabilities! When the tragedy happened in Norway a few years back, when a lot of people were shot, the media, possibly even Canadian media asked the person in charge of the country now you will have to implement stricter laws and rules around firearms because that just takes care of these things, you know. The response was incredible, you can't legislate a random act of lunacy I believe it was or along those lines. That was the most common sense thing ever heard at the time regarding firearms used for violence and it quickly vanished from the media. Not spectacular enough? Made too much sense? Gun violence? Time and time again we have seen inanimate objects targeted and take the blame for the actions of the people controlling them. Gun violence? I have never heard of a gun just randomly shooting or pistol whipping someone without another person involved. Except maybe Hollywood. Time and again in my local papers I read the court news and people prohibited from having firearms are being charged all the time, if you follow these stories long enough you usually see a majority of these charges being dropped or reduced to lesser ones! Is the vast majority of Canadians outside the firearm community obtuse to the fact that they themselves are prohibited from possessing firearms in Canada. Unless they have taken the training courses and been background checked and deemed ok etc. to be issued the proper documentation to even purchase ammunition let alone be in possession of a firearm! Do these people think that a prohibited persons hands will burst into flames or something if they touch a firearm? The only thing is a person knowing the law and then making a choice as to whether are going to follow the law or not! These people are criminals.

How do the organizations representing us to the government and the rest of society get this message out to the un informed masses that just believe the garbage they are being told it will make them safer? I can't imagine how many lives have been save because someone said I guess I can't go out and rape or mug someone tonight because this stolen firearm in my possession is illegal for me to have and I am going to turn it in now that I'm aware of it!
 
shuraparabellum said:
So the liberal voter is younger, better educated , tolerant. So following your logic conservative voter is the opposite to that. You should do a better research my friend to really understand why libs hold the power
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First off, I was sharing the analysis of what I read.

What I am saying is that you cannot win a majority government without winning a big percentage of the three
main urban areas of Tornonto, Montreal, and Vancouver. These areas have the largest population and are growing the fastest.
And the population in these urban areas have views that are (currently) more liberal than conservative.

So the Conservative Party needs to consider how better to appeal to a wider base than its current 30--35 percent.
There is no reason it couldn't do this.
 
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Smoothbore said:
First off, I was sharing the analysis of what I read.

What I am saying is that you cannot win a majority government without winning a big percentage of the three
main urban areas of Tornonto, Montreal, and Vancouver. These areas have the largest population and are growing the fastest.
And the population in these urban areas have views that are (currently) more liberal than conservative.

So the Conservative Party needs to consider how better to appeal to a wider base than its current 30--35 percent.
There is no reason it couldn't do this.
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the views of those who cling to the liberal cause are views of manipulated sheeple ….. it is not up to the conservative party to tell them the error of their ways.
It is up to those people to pull their heads out of the sand , get off the facebook/twitter/leftist media Koolaid and give up their sense of entitlement or society itself will collapse around them. It is inevitable.
 
Can someone tell me tell this... the election was Oct 21st...
And nothing is happening till at least Nov 20th
Is a month delay "Normal " ?

I have no personal insider information, but have read comments about a Civil war going on behind closed doors at the liberal party!
I will add this as well... the Push by MSM, could be in part, to cut the head off the Conservatives party, Andrew Scheer, in case of a Snap election!
 
rockport guy said:
Can someone tell me tell this... the election was Oct 21st...
And nothing is happening till at least Nov 20th
Is a month delay "Normal " ?

I have no personal insider information, but have read comments about a Civil war going on behind closed doors at the liberal party!
I will add this as well... the Push by MSM, could be in part, to cut the head off the Conservatives party, Andrew Scheer, in case of a Snap election!
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the month delay was for mr dressup to come up with a Balanced cabinet ...... M/F .... or the most yes People in cabinet... he will have to have a private meeting with everyone,

Just a opinion
 
Ajax148 said:
Norway ... you can't legislate a random act of lunacy
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I don't know about the Norway quote.

But here are similar.

"You cannot legislate against human madness."
-- Premier Jean Charest

“You cannot legislate against the acts of a madman”
-- Home Secretary Leon Brittan

"You cannot legislate against insanity"
-- then Justice Minister Doug Lewis in 1989 after Marc Lepine

One cannot legislate the maniacs off the street... these maniacs can only be shut down by an armed citizenry. Indeed bad things can happen in nations where the citizenry is armed, but not as bad as those which seem to be threatening our disarmed citizenry in this country at this time.
-- Jeff Cooper

Guns are not the problem … crazy is the problem.
We cannot legislate our society to the craziest amongst us.
-- Jon Stewart​

I believe the Quebec Premier Jean Charest quote was at the funeral of Anastasia DeSousa (Dawson 2006)
 
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I hope that the libs will wake up and give up this whole gun bans crap, that would be nice. I doubt that will happen..so where are we? We are pretty much at a crossroads, each one of us to decide how they want to proceed, give up your guns when the doorbell rings...or so NO and face the music. CGN doesnt have the answer...we all know that.
 
rockport guy said:
Can someone tell me tell this... the election was Oct 21st...
And nothing is happening till at least Nov 20th
Is a month delay "Normal " ?
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Justin announced his first Cabinet Nov 4 2015.
The last federal election, they didn't return until Thursday, December 3, 2015 for the Crown Speech.
The first real Bill (C-2) was tabled Dec 9 2015.
 
I am in a similar spot as I was before the election except I am a bit further down the confusion hole. I don’t know how the conservatives will ever pull off a victory if they couldn’t this time. I don’t know how much more BS the liberals will spread, clearly people believe them. All this makes me really wonder where we are headed in this country. Real men are disappearing, we are giving more and more to the gov everyday with nothing in return. Welfare and safe injection sites are good to go but CPP is drying up. Most people seem to think this is ok. Help and except everyone except the people Holding this country together, May as well hand in our nuts with the guns.
 
murph83 said:
I hope that the libs will wake up and give up this whole gun bans crap, that would be nice. I doubt that will happen..so where are we? We are pretty much at a crossroads, each one of us to decide how they want to proceed, give up your guns when the doorbell rings...or so NO and face the music. CGN doesnt have the answer...we all know that.
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When the Liberals bring in their gun confiscation plans.. it will certainly accelerate Western alienation and strengthen the separation movement. Trudeau will have a legacy as the one who broke up Canada.
 
Revv said:
When the Liberals bring in their gun confiscation plans.. it will certainly accelerate Western alienation and strengthen the separation movement. Trudeau will have a legacy as the one who broke up Canada.
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Yes and also the only prime minister to drink out of boxed water thingy’s
 
Shootings in GTA, a guy with criminal record dropped his gun in a cop car, and they blame us for all this
A RCMP handgun and the radio were stolen in Toronto, should they ban the RCMP people from carrying a firearm?
 
Justin Castro has it in his blood!
He is becoming a real dictator, ones antibody think's he is above the law for any reason,that's it!
 
Here's a doozie for ya fellas. Couple years ago now I was at the gas station here in town. Cop pulls up to the pump with the windows down and his AR sitting upright between the seats, clear mag, loooaaded to the nuts... Then he walks into the gas station. Just leaves it there, windows open, for every meth head in town to grab ahold of.

On another note. This gun ban is just restricted weapons?
 
trapoholic said:
This gun ban is just restricted weapons?
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a) It hasn't been published yet, so no one knows
b) The presumption is that it's non-restricted as well. So {Prohibited, Restricted, Non-Restricted}, some of each. Both by the semi-auto ban/confiscation/buyback by name/type of a quarter million or so {Prohibited, Restricted, Non-Restricted}, as well as by the city possession/storage ban/sellable/value-destroyed of potentially millions of {Prohibited, Restricted, Non-Restricted}.
 
rockport guy said:
Can someone tell me tell this... the election was Oct 21st...
And nothing is happening till at least Nov 20th
Is a month delay "Normal " ?

I have no personal insider information, but have read comments about a Civil war going on behind closed doors at the liberal party!
I will add this as well... the Push by MSM, could be in part, to cut the head off the Conservatives party, Andrew Scheer, in case of a Snap election!
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All that was said re: Nov. 20th is no decision will be announced until the Cabinet is introduced on Nov. 20th. That is for ANY policy, not just for guns. I'm sure you could email a spokesperson and ask when decisions about anything are coming and they'd give the same answer.

If I had to bet money on when an announcement was coming, it'd be December 6th - the 30th anniversary of Ecole Polytechnique.
 
HOSSONE said:
I am in a similar spot as I was before the election except I am a bit further down the confusion hole. I don’t know how the conservatives will ever pull off a victory if they couldn’t this time. I don’t know how much more BS the liberals will spread, clearly people believe them. All this makes me really wonder where we are headed in this country. Real men are disappearing, we are giving more and more to the gov everyday with nothing in return. Welfare and safe injection sites are good to go but CPP is drying up. Most people seem to think this is ok. Help and except everyone except the people Holding this country together, May as well hand in our nuts with the guns.
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They Tories ran a man with the charisma of a wet newspaper. He spent much of the election on the defensive about his personal views rather than staking out a policy. This was the nothing election that the Tories probably would have won with a better leader.
 
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