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Ribstaylor said:
I wouldnt call it a wedge people like hunting different things. But where im from I had never heard of eating squirrel till the meat eater crew. And no one i knew had even thought it a thing to do outside removing pests. And bring it up in conversation and everyone will lool at you funny. So ya its not worth it imo. I can go for the other stuff like birds and deer coyotes. Leave the furry rree rats for my friends.
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And do you eat those coyotes? At least squirrels provide dinner... And you can only get a limited number of deer, squirrels have long seasons and generous bag limits. I wish we had grays and fox squirrels around here! Then again I'm always looking for ways to spend more time hunting, especially in the times of year that aren't open for deer.
 
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Bag limits aren't really a main issue with me. And there is a lot of good documentation on why to remove coyotes. Buy like i said to each their own i may not enjoy it but others do.
 
Ribstaylor said:
Bag limits aren't really a main issue with me. And there is a lot of good documentation on why to remove coyotes. Buy like i said to each their own i may not enjoy it but others do.
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Killing coyotes only makes more coyotes. So if you think you're helping the deer herd or whatever, the science says otherwise.
 
So no one should kill them then? The science on them breading does not negate the fact removin coyotes from an area will increase small game and will stop the ageressiveness theyve been exibiting to my neighbors animals. Your making a lot of assumptions about my behavoir based of a couple of paragraphs. Like i said to each their own but ill keep away from the tree rats and continue to go for the coyotes.
 
Ribstaylor said:
So no one should kill them then? The science on them breading does not negate the fact removin coyotes from an area will increase small game and will stop the ageressiveness theyve been exibiting to my neighbors animals. Your making a lot of assumptions about my behavoir based of a couple of paragraphs. Like i said to each their own but ill keep away from the tree rats and continue to go for the coyotes.
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There is plenty of reasons to kill coyotes. Reducing the overall number of them isn't one of em though.

How does killing coyotes benefit small game though? If killing coyotes causes MORE coyotes, wouldn't that have a negative impact on small game?
 
Ribstaylor said:
So no one should kill them then? The science on them breading does not negate the fact removin coyotes from an area will increase small game and will stop the ageressiveness theyve been exibiting to my neighbors animals. Your making a lot of assumptions about my behavoir based of a couple of paragraphs. Like i said to each their own but ill keep away from the tree rats and continue to go for the coyotes.
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Removing problem animals is a good practice, but killing them for the sake of killing them is going to result in a higher population level in the longterm. Same thing that happens with feral pigs.
 
rkm456 said:
Removing problem animals is a good practice, but killing them for the sake of killing them is going to result in a higher population level in the longterm. Same thing that happens with feral pigs.
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I haven't heard of killing pigs leading to more pigs like it does with coyotes? Do you have a source for that by chance?

Pigs do have very high fecundity though. They can get pregnant multiple times a year, can put out a half dozen or more young each time, and they're ###ually mature at 5-6 months of age. You probably don't need any weird breeding adaptation like coyotes have evolved when you have the ability to drop 20 babies in a year...
 
Suther said:
I haven't heard of killing pigs leading to more pigs like it does with coyotes? Do you have a source for that by chance?

Pigs do have very high fecundity though. They can get pregnant multiple times a year, can put out a half dozen or more young each time, and they're ###ually mature at 5-6 months of age. You probably don't need any weird breeding adaptation like coyotes have evolved when you have the ability to drop 20 babies in a year...
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There was actually a MeatEater podcast about it with a biologist a while back. They break into small groups and immediately begin breeding not unlike coyotes.By banning hunting and focusing on trapping Missouri is having a lot of success.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/11/04/mdc-hog-eradication-efforts-kills-over-seven-thousand-feral-hogs-missouri-2018/1860356002/
 
rkm456 said:
There was actually a MeatEater podcast about it with a biologist a while back. They break into small groups and immediately begin breeding not unlike coyotes.By banning hunting and focusing on trapping Missouri is having a lot of success.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/11/04/mdc-hog-eradication-efforts-kills-over-seven-thousand-feral-hogs-missouri-2018/1860356002/
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Oh ok I see where your coming from. Hunting causes them to disperse, making hunting a very ineffective method to get rid of them. I'm not sure it has an effect on breeding though, only because they're always breeding it seems.

Similar effect to hunting the coyote, but I think it's a different mechanism at play.
 
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