10 round mags for 305s??!!!

Pblatzz said:
I have been told if the mag is made for a bolt action by the manufacture (AIA), it is legal to own. It is irrelevant if it fits other rifles.

However in this case, if you modify that mag to fit and lock into a M14, then that maybe illegal as one would be making a mag that was outside of the manufacturer's specs. It would then fall under the magazine capacity specs.

Call before you do this, The hassle of getting caught, can cost you...

Saying that.

Imagine if Remington made a .223 / 30 rd mag for the Model 7615???

Regards

Pete
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there was a mention- or more ;) of this point in the thread on LAR 10 .223 mags. the gist was that CFC considers 10 round mags designed for pistols to be OK in semi-auto rifles, but rifle to rifle is not, ie use of a 10 round rifle mag designed for a pump or presumably a bolt rifle in a semi-auto rifle is not OK.
 
Pblatzz said:
That would be the case if the mag was an AR mag. But if it was purpose built for the Remington and (I forgot to add) stamped Remington 7615. Then that is ok.

Logically, they never will make a mag larger than they already have.

Pete
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In this case it doesn't matter. In the eyes of the RCMP the 7615 rifle was designed to use AR15 mags, not 7615 mags. Any mags that say 7615 on them might as well read AR15, because of the wording Remington used when describing the rifle. The boat has sailed.
 
Any updates on the AIA mags in an M14? I'm going to call Marstar tomorrow and see if they have any available. I'm curious about the lack of the front hole and if the mag would drop out in a practical rifle match.
 
Polar Man said:
It seems as sturdy to me as any other mag. I would be more concerned about the legality of using such a mag in a public place where there may be some curious people about. I dunno, there hasn't been as many people discussing it as I thought, is everyone just waiting for a ruling?
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I would imagine yes. I don't think anyone want to go out and give it a whirl is public without some documentation in their pocket for the police.
 
AlderTK said:
legaly is there any thing wrong with modding the gun to take a larger capacity mag thats legal to own?
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Oh, brother! Asking the RCMP for an interpretation on which magazine is legal for which firearm will be like mud wrestling with a pig. Everyone gets dirty and the pig likes it.

The intent of Parliament was to limit semi-automatic long guns to 5-shot magazines, then they named a few technical exceptions such as the Garand. Trying to circumvent the spirit of the law by modifying bolt action rifle magazines for semi-autos or tweaking semi-auto firearms for bolt action magazines is just asking for trouble. Either way the firearm can hold more than 5 shots and it is not on the exception list. But hey, its not my reputation, bank account and criminal record at stake.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Oh, brother! Asking the RCMP for an interpretation on which magazine is legal for which firearm will be like mud wrestling with a pig. Everyone gets dirty and the pig likes it.

The intent of Parliament was to limit semi-automatic long guns to 5-shot magazines, then they named a few technical exceptions such as the Garand. Trying to circumvent the spirit of the law by modifying bolt action rifle magazines for semi-autos or tweaking semi-auto firearms for bolt action magazines is just asking for trouble. Either way the firearm can hold more than 5 shots and it is not on the exception list. But hey, its not my reputation, bank account and criminal record at stake.
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You do know no modification of either rifle or mag is happening in this case, right?
 
The rifle is legal, the mag is legal. If the mag works in in the rifle with NO modifications to either, there won't be any legal issues. This is the EXACT same thing people are doing right now with their AR15's and the AR pistol mags.
 
Rusty Shackleford said:
The rifle is legal, the mag is legal. If the mag works in in the rifle with NO modifications to either, there won't be any legal issues. This is the EXACT same thing people are doing right now with their AR15's and the AR pistol mags.
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Not according to the RCMP. The only catch is that with the AR15 issue the mags are being swapped between pistol and rifle. In this case they mags are being swapped between rifle and rifle. The RCMP doesn't seem to agree with rifle to rifle mag swaps. Sure they're wrong, but it's not exactly easy to argue with them about this without government documentation in your hands.

Trying to make sense of the gun laws here in Canada is just asking for a headache..
 
cancer said:
Not according to the RCMP. The only catch is that with the AR15 issue the mags are being swapped between pistol and rifle. In this case they mags are being swapped between rifle and rifle. The RCMP doesn't seem to agree with rifle to rifle mag swaps. Sure they're wrong, but it's not exactly easy to argue with them about this without government documentation in your hands.

Trying to make sense of the gun laws here in Canada is just asking for a headache..
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There is a letter published in this months issue of the Canadian Firearms Journal regarding the RCMP approval of 10 round AR mags (Members' Letters page 8). It says that

"the way Canadian law is worded, it is the magazine that determines the legal capacity, not what the magazine is actually used in. The LAR-15 10 Round Magazines can have a 10 round capacity regardless of which firearm you use them in."

If the "AIA" mags have a legal 10 round capacity that should be the end of the story. If they work in your M14/M305 great. Further, even if you needed to modify your magazine well, that would not have any bearing on the legal status of the "AIA" mag. (note, I am not a lawyer. Just my opinion)

Having said that, I still agree with all of the comments regarding the legal fees one might have to pay out to prove this in court.

JTA
 
JTA said:
There is a letter published in this months issue of the Canadian Firearms Journal regarding the RCMP approval of 10 round AR mags (Members' Letters page 8). It says that

"the way Canadian law is worded, it is the magazine that determines the legal capacity, not what the magazine is actually used in. The LAR-15 10 Round Magazines can have a 10 round capacity regardless of which firearm you use them in."

If the "AIA" mags have a legal 10 round capacity that should be the end of the story. If they work in your M14/M305 great. Further, even if you needed to modify your magazine well, that would not have any bearing on the legal status of the "AIA" mag. (note, I am not a lawyer. Just my opinion)

Having said that, I still agree with all of the comments regarding the legal fees one might have to pay out to prove this in court.

JTA
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Which is why it'd be much better to have a letter or document from the RCMP saying it's ok.
 
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