Calling Deer

the call I have that I mentioned earlier was made by former cgn'er carverk.
It's a pretty rustic unit but apparently Haida hunters have been making similar calls going way back in history but with blades of beach grass either between thierr thumbs or between a stick like this. It is essentially a reed call but the rubber band wraps around one half of the split stick and is trapped between the two halves of the stick. Electrical tape around the ends to hold it together and keep the string from falling off. It's a piece of alder (?) about 3/4 " diameter and about 3 inches long. Split down the middle and hollowed out to clearance the elastic band.

super easy to make one of these.
the blow hole
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the exit hole
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I have grunted a few deer in, mostly bucks but did have a doe come right into the grunt call once.....
On a side....Sometimes while I am coyote hunting, I have had doe and bucks come into the screaming rabbit call, so calling does work, its just not a sure thing.....
 
Last year during muzzle loader season while sitting in a tree stand I heard a bobcat bawl. After a few minutes I made a couple of doe bleats and within ten minutes that bobcat came in behind me. Quite entertaining.
 
I've rattled in several bucks over the years . Never tried any other type of calling for deer . Several of my stands over look large areas so i can often see the reaction to rattling .
 
I've rattled in several bucks over the years . Never tried any other type of calling for deer . Several of my stands over look large areas so i can often see the reaction to rattling .

I may give rattling a try next year now that i am at a stand that overlooks a field, the sound should carry a bit more than back in the thick stuff
 
I've called a lot of mule deer in with coyote vocalizations and prey sounds on an electronic caller. Its almost always does, but bucks have come in with them. Whitetail does will come too, but less often. I did call 3 whitetail bucks in together once; all bristled up and looking to kick some coyote butt. When they cut my scent stream they buggered off but it was funny while it lasted.

I view calling, rattling and decoys all in the same category. It works and is fun, but you scare away more than you call in. Of those you call in, none ever seem to be the one I want anyway. Better off sitting quiet for numbers, but the entertainment factor is high.
 
Haha it's funny this should come up today.. I had been sitting in my stand all yesterday and two days previous last week wondering about the actual validity of calling and/or rattling. I am in the woods on crown land, so just about the most frustrating and difficult place to hunt, however I know that there are four bucks roaming the immediate area. I am a fairly novice hunter only having started about 4 years ago with just a few animals to my name, so always there's some doubt as to how much my "inexperience" could play into my "ineffective" grunting or rattling.

Determined to do better this year I spent a lot of time watching youtube instructionals and trying to learn some other people's opinion, or at the very least some do's & don'ts. Unfortunately, as like with my fishing tackle box, it's very easy to accumulate all sorts of different calls, thinking 'that one didn't work so I'll try another...' or 'these hunters say it's the best call so I'll try it'... so needless to say sometimes I feel like those duck hunter folk who have about a dozen calls on a lanyard around their neck lol!

I use: THE CAN (estrous doe bleat), Primos Bottleneck grunt, some other grunt tube, some other doe bleat (looks more like a duck call), Ruttin' Buck rattling sticks, and I'm seriously considering getting a Extinguisher.

Anyways so yeah, I don't profess whatsoever to "know what I'm doing" or even enough to suggest what I "think you should do", because truth be told I don't even know that what I'm doing works. I have spent a fair amount of time proper-hunting (i.e. not sitting in a truck) and scouting in the woods, so I've experienced the snort-wheeze quite a few times, but never actually hear bleats or grunts.

BUT

The whole point to this story is yesterday I sat in my stand since 1hr before sunup. And at 1 o'clock one of the bigger 4x4 WT's that I knew lived in the area finally came to investigate me/my noises. I shot at him but very VERY unfortunately missed... no blood, no sign of injury, and I don't feel that I actually hit him. Very sad for me I was really bummed out yesterday.

Anyhow,

From all my Youtube'ing, reading, listening, questioning, and observing/common sense this is kinda what I've put together:

-You're trying to paint a picture to the animals, so the calling needs to reflect this. I sometimes mix estrous calling with buck grunting and soft rattles... no idea if this is smart or dumb, ymmv
-Call every 20min for BLIND calling, the theory here is you're hoping something hears you as it travels by (if nothing else this schedule just helps to pass the time :) )
-If/when something shows up the calling strategy changes completely
-Make a few groups of same noise in each 20min set
-A longer grunt (2-3seconds) is more a intimidating/dominent thing... but can definitely be used to entice a buck to come investigate
-Short blips of grunt noise are just "normal" and should be included in the sequence
-Only soft rattling and not necessary to bash the sticks together like a car accident. You need to think more of a scrubbing type noise
-I am going to experiment with using scent tactics next year
-mid-to-high pitched buck tones don't work IMHO... they need to be at least mid-semi low tone, if not for certain lower tone.. and obviously very low for a mature noise

Even though Youtube can be kinda hokey, there does seem to be some good guidance on it. I would suggest you search topics you wish to learn about and just watch lots, there are also videos of actual deer sounds on there too sometimes that could be the most insightful.

All in All I still think calling is a bit of craps shoot...but if you do it even somewhat correctly I don't think it hurts to do. Like I said above for all I know I called in that buck yesterday, even though I was sitting on a traveled game trail and I was in & around the bedding area and I was more set-up to just catch them as they went from A to B.

Good luck, try not to get discouraged, I think this hobby takes a lot of time, effort, trial & error, and a certain amount of practice to get better at. I envy the people who have had the opportunity to communicate back & forth with a game animal and maybe even trick it into doing what they want.
 
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I love playing around with calls, rattling horns and decoys...but, as Dogleg said, it's mostly for the entertainment. I got my first decoy about 15 years ago and they do bring in a lot of deer...usually deer I don't want to shoot. I can attribute exactly one nice buck to the use of a decoy, but I know for a fact that there have been many instances where the decoy scared the crap out of deer who unsuspectingly came upon it at close range and then practically turned inside-out in their mad dash to escape. But even that was entertaining.

Calls? I never hunt without at least a couple in my pockets or pack, and I have a couple dozen...again, mostly for entertainment. I am not aware that I have ever actually frightened away a deer by calling (which doesn't mean that it hasn't happened...), but for sure a call can be used to stop a moving animal long enough for a shot. And...once in a blue moon...I can definitely say that a call will bring in a buck which otherwise might never have stepped into sight. Those relatively rare occasions are worth the hassle of carrying and using calls.

edit: I'll also mention that when I lived in Ontario my success with calling was ridiculously low. Here in Manitoba...it's merely low. I guess wester is better.
 
Helps to pass the time some days. My experience is rattling, calling etc does work, but infrequently. When it happens it is usually quick and dirty. Bucks will be coming fast and usually next to silent. Of the deer I have managed to kill when called most are within spitting distance.

Four years ago snuck into a bedding area in a pressured swamp area. 2.5 hours to get 300yds and find a tree I can set up against and drop my pack. Up come 5 doe's at 30 yds and I think there must be a buck laying with them. Stand looking where the doe's were laying for another 20 minutes bend down and sure as #### up he gets and off he goes.

Only thing I could do is snort/wheeze and him a couple times as he ran off. Me thinks I really screwed the pooch here folks. Oh well, nothing left but to sit and have a snack and drink and might as well throw out a couple grunt calls while I do. 30 minutes later I start to get up and a deer starts snorting back in the thick stuff 20 yds off. I give him a couple grunts and think " yeah right no way that buck came back"

1 minute later I hear a snap, look to my right(offhand side) and the buck is coming down a trail straight toward me at 20 yds. No way to turn I stay motionless and am against about a 30" cherry tree. Buck stops right behind my tree. At that point I didn't have anything to lose so gun in my lap, slowly pick it up, turn it left handed, lean around the tree and that deer was no more than a 2 feet off the barrel when the hammer dropped. All I could see was hair and front leg in a 1.5x scope. He literally was blown sideways and over backwards.

He stopped perfectly with his head behind the tree but he knew exactly where that grunt came from. When it works be ready cause it happens fast.
 
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