RCMP Bulletin on Carrying for Wilderness Protection

The OP didn't mention what type of firearm but ATC really only applies to restricted firearms.
good luck getting a wilderness atc in BC , but they do exist. Best place to start is with the BC CFO's office I would think
 
The OP didn't mention what type of firearm but ATC really only applies to restricted firearms.
good luck getting a wilderness atc in BC , but they do exist. Best place to start is with the BC CFO's office I would think

Only looking at carrying non-restricted.

Purpose : Bear defence while scouting out hunting locations.
 
Just take it with you then. If anyone asks its for target practice. CO stopped us last year with the kids getting a Christmas tree. Took the sbl with me just cause. All he wanted to see was that it was unloaded and safe. Asked me what i was hunting.....i replied that everything was closed and it was just to take a few sighting shots with. All was well.
 
BC CO's seem to be very reasonable about this sort of thing. I wouldn't worry about it, I have not heard of anyone being charged with anything just because they were packing a gun in the woods. Lots of bears and cougars in BC.
 
I met a young guy up at the range one day with a chest rig for an open carry glock in 10mm. He got his bush ATC only because he survived a bear attack while working as a forester, engineer or something like that. Absolute BS that we have to survive an attack to be given the "privilege" of self defence. I would sure love the peace of mind having a S&W 44mag with me out in the bush. Especially with my small kids.
 
Better be CAREFULL on whats called BEAR DEFENCE with out a hunting licence and tag and in a open season !

Co's Frown on these situations of " DEFENCE " RJ

That's the thing isn't it - how do you prove you have it for a purpose other than hunting ?

Perhaps "target practice" may be the better answer, but having the Hunting License in the back pocket, too.
 
The last person I tested was complying with the competency for a renewal.
During our discussions BC is tightening up on the issuance of new permits.
Carrying a non-restricted during the closed season should not be a problem as long as you can articulate your reason for carrying.
During the open season a hunting license makes good sense.
 
I had a wilderness protection ATC for over 15 years, to open carry my .45 ACP. Initially not that hard to get, since it was work-related. Had to justify why I couldn't carry a long gun for the same purpose, show various credentials, etc. It was a 2 or 3 page written form to the BC Firearms Officer, valid for 3 years... then 2... then 1, with additional requirements layered on over the years. Basically becoming more & more inconvenient. I eventually let it expire and did not renew, since my job had changed.. So it IS possible to get one if you have real justification. If you just want to carry a sidearm around in the woods...'just in case'... it probably isn't going to happen.. not legally, anyway!
 
I met a young guy up at the range one day with a chest rig for an open carry glock in 10mm. He got his bush ATC only because he survived a bear attack while working as a forester, engineer or something like that. Absolute BS that we have to survive an attack to be given the "privilege" of self defence. I would sure love the peace of mind having a S&W 44mag with me out in the bush. Especially with my small kids.

You don't have to survive an attack. You need to have a job that makes you require one. If you work in forestry, mining, geology, etc and spend days on end in the remote wilderness getting an ATC isn't that hard. If you don't, then you won't get one. That guy wouldn't have an ATC just because he was attacked, it's because of his line of work.

If you're worried about your kids, bring a long gun. They're far more effective than a handgun, both in power and ease of hitting your target.

Better be CAREFULL on whats called BEAR DEFENCE with out a hunting licence and tag and in a open season !

Co's Frown on these situations of " DEFENCE " RJ

Do you know from personal experience? I've never had an issue personally, nor do I know of anyone charged with an offence for packing a shotgun with slugs in the BC back country - CO's are well aware of the fact that we have lots of bears, cats, and dogs out there.
 
That's the thing isn't it - how do you prove you have it for a purpose other than hunting ?

Perhaps "target practice" may be the better answer, but having the Hunting License in the back pocket, too.

What I have been told on two occasions by BC conservation officers is that the situation will be interpreted by what an officer finds.
So.... you are out hiking and have a shotgun strapped to your pack for protection.... first thing they are going to check is if you also have bear spray or bangers and what kind of ammo do you have. Do you have game processing gear in your pack or just snacks a camera and gps?
Say you are hiking up to a good target shooting spot while camping for the weekend. What's in your pack? They are gonna check your ammo..... is it soft point hunting ammo or FMJ target ammo.... got targets and a stapler in your pack or game processing items?
CO's are trained to assess these things and come across non hunters with firearms frequently so they will usually know pretty quick if someone's story behind carrying a firearm checks out.
Around here I have never been asked for a PAL by a CO, just a hunting license. Also around here, hunting season is year round. There is always something open year round so just use common sense and remove items specifically associated with hunting from your kit and you should be fine. British Columbians have been using firearms on crown land for recreation and protection since before the country was formed so I'm pretty sure folks shouldn't be too concerned about the practice. Just be safe and use common sense.

as far as dispatching an animal that is threat..... self report it to the CO service for your region as soon as possible.
I had to go thru this very thing after having a gun fight with a pack of wolves. Animals were killed and wounded and left with no ability for retrieval. I was interviewed twice by phone by BC conservation officers and subsequently cleared of any and all responsibility. So it's not like they are looking to screw every gun owner for real life situations when firearms are used for what they are intended for.
 
What I have been told on two occasions by BC conservation officers is that the situation will be interpreted by what an officer finds.
So.... you are out hiking and have a shotgun strapped to your pack for protection.... first thing they are going to check is if you also have bear spray or bangers and what kind of ammo do you have. Do you have game processing gear in your pack or just snacks a camera and gps?
Say you are hiking up to a good target shooting spot while camping for the weekend. What's in your pack? They are gonna check your ammo..... is it soft point hunting ammo or FMJ target ammo.... got targets and a stapler in your pack or game processing items?
CO's are trained to assess these things and come across non hunters with firearms frequently so they will usually know pretty quick if someone's story behind carrying a firearm checks out.
Around here I have never been asked for a PAL by a CO, just a hunting license. Also around here, hunting season is year round. There is always something open year round so just use common sense and remove items specifically associated with hunting from your kit and you should be fine. British Columbians have been using firearms on crown land for recreation and protection since before the country was formed so I'm pretty sure folks shouldn't be too concerned about the practice. Just be safe and use common sense.

as far as dispatching an animal that is threat..... self report it to the CO service for your region as soon as possible.
I had to go thru this very thing after having a gun fight with a pack of wolves. Animals were killed and wounded and left with no ability for retrieval. I was interviewed twice by phone by BC conservation officers and subsequently cleared of any and all responsibility. So it's not like they are looking to screw every gun owner for real life situations when firearms are used for what they are intended for.

Silly dogs, bringing teeth to a gun fight...
 
Silly dogs, bringing teeth to a gun fight...

dude, it was down right frightening it all happened so quick. I did post about it when it happened.
I am "very" lucky I was not hunting solo as I normally do in that spot or the outcome would have been quite different.
I emptied a 5 rounds from an enfield mag and frantically reloaded with my back up mag of 10 180gr. As I was emptying that mag, my hunting partner off to my right was banging away with a 30-06. One wolf took a swipe at my leg as it blew by me, darn near taking me off my feet. It was intense...… and my adrenaline is flowing just typing this LOL
A reliable semi auto pistol would have been an ideal weapon in the situation I was in versus the constraints of looking down a long gun, couple with the limitations of a variable scope at point blank range. Perhaps a shotgun would be okay too but cumbersome to pack along with a hunting rifle in that steep confined terrain.

anyhow...… carry on, sorry to hijack with my ramblings LOL
 
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