Steel competitions out to 1K

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Howdy !
I am looking for input for a set of rules/guidelines for a steel competition for distances from 600 to 1K
Most guys up here are running brakes and big cartridges so I was thinking of two cartridge classes like SBR ,6 mm and under and over 6mm
We are templates fir .50 but I don’t know how many are left up here .
Bipod, rests, tear bags etc all allowed
Course if fire possibly 5 rounds at each distance , or should we have more ?
Any input would be appreciated !
Cat
 
I think you are describing PRS. Probably best to start by doing pure PRS. Next best would be to tweak it to suit your sensibilities. Next best, and indeed worst, case would be to create something from scratch.
 
Always nice to have LR steel options.

Are you think a belly match or Precision rifle style with various field positions and challenging obstacles to shoot from?

In PRS the limit is 7mm and 3200fps so you could draw the classification line there and separate the two. IMO +/- 6mm is splitting the same class of shooter too much.

Also in PRS each stage is around 10 rounds and a 2 minute time limit from a bolt back magazine inserted start to last shot fired. I find this to be a good amount of shooting and time.

Good luck in your planning.
 
adamg said:
I think you are describing PRS. Probably best to start by doing pure PRS. Next best would be to tweak it to suit your sensibilities. Next best, and indeed worst, case would be to create something from scratch.
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Not PRS no, we would be shooting from one position at fixed known distances, some of the 1K bench guns are over 20 pounds
Cat
 
Then this would be Fclass with 'instant feedback" :)

Today, there are SOOO many excellent options for ringing steel out to 1000yds. From the 223 to 338LM, there is something for everyone.

I think more important will be weight overall, type of rests, optics mag, mag or single shot, number of rounds and size of target. Sizes of targets could range from MOA and under to make this extremely challenging... or up to 2moa to get the hit rates up and allow more shooters to ring steel.

Are you going to put on time limits? You can look at the Steel ELR matches for inspiration and ideas.

then of course, the durability and set up of the targets. Even with 6mms, targets hit a bunch of time can see stand and support failures.

I think with todays tech, making the 308 the largest volume case would make for a very interesting and challenging match especially if there is wind. 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoors have been smashing steel at these distances for many years.

there are also LR egg shoots, milk jug challenges, pop can matches and so forth.

All very enjoyable and a mixture of targets would make things very interesting.

Jerry
 
Many of the rifles up here are in the 300-338 and larger brackets Jerry so holding it to .308 would be detrimental , not to mention Fclass disallowing Brakes which most guns being shot up here employ .
Cat
 
iron cat said:
Just skimming what I could most I see are around 15 pounds , that is quite heavy for most guns that are built as a long range hunter- range plinker I think but I may be wrong .
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In PRS guys are shooting rifles that weigh as much as 27 to 28 lbs.

My PRS/RTC rifle is in the 18 lbs range and I carried that over the course of 2 days throughout the Snipershide Cup. You were gone from your vehicle all day and had to pack all your gear for the day over the course of 12 or so spread out firing points.
 
iron cat said:
Many of the rifles up here are in the 300-338 and larger brackets Jerry so holding it to .308 would be detrimental , not to mention Fclass disallowing Brakes which most guns being shot up here employ .
Cat
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Cater the match to those who will show up. If there is interest in a 'small' case class, have at it. I would definitely allow brakes.

Sounds like a lot of fun.

Jerry
 
Skullboy said:

In PRS guys are shooting rifles that weigh as much as 27 to 28 lbs.

My PRS/RTC rifle is in the 18 lbs range and I carried that over the course of 2 days throughout the Snipershide Cup. You were gone from your vehicle all day and had to pack all your gear for the day over the course of 12 or so spread out firing points.
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Is 18 pounds on the average, Skullboy or are they heavier as was mentioned ?
I have shot only Fclass ,and Palma , that is why I am asking .
Cat
 
iron cat said:
Is 18 pounds on the average, Skullboy or are they heavier as was mentioned ?
I have shot only Fclass ,and Palma , that is why I am asking .
Cat
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I would say 18 lbs to 20 lbs would be the average.
A lot of the top PRS shooters are using a chassis such as the MDT ACC that allows weights to be added or removed as needed.
An ACC chassis with the complete weight kit will tip the scale around 27 to 28 lbs.

For a field match such as the Snipershide Cup you want to go lighter as you must carry your rig and gear all day........and you do a lot of walking up and down hills........
 
Average PRS/NRL rifle weights are about 20+ lbs these days (mine are about 23lbs). Some guys carry lighter rigs for field matches, especially those that have timed rucks/intervals. My teammate and I carried our heavy rigs around for the Snipershide Cup and it was no issue for us.

For your match, seeing as you plan on having everyone shoot at known distance from the same position, I'd figure out relatively equal classes for people (say tactical for .308/.223, open light for 30cals and under and open heavy for anything above a .30cal) and a time frame for how to engage the targets and then have at her. Should be a good time!
 
rugbydave said:
Average PRS/NRL rifle weights are about 20+ lbs these days (mine are about 23lbs). Some guys carry lighter rigs for field matches, especially those that have timed rucks/intervals. My teammate and I carried our heavy rigs around for the Snipershide Cup and it was no issue for us.

For your match, seeing as you plan on having everyone shoot at known distance from the same position, I'd figure out relatively equal classes for people (say tactical for .308/.223, open light for 30cals and under and open heavy for anything above a .30cal) and a time frame for how to engage the targets and then have at her. Should be a good time!
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Probably run the cut off point at 14 pounds for a light gun and open, with no caliber, optics or trigger restrictions, and a reasonable time frame to shoot the number of rounds at each distance.
Lots of 338 Ultras and Lapuas up here that are way under 14 pounds with brakes, that is my reasoning for not limiting the caliber in the weight classes.
Cat
 
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