SOLD OUT: Bersa Thunder 380

Got mine the other day. A bit hard to take apart because of the Canada barrel, but that's not a big deal. The gun seems solid, and the DA pull is light, but long. Can't wait to take it shooting this weekend.

One thing I noticed, the 4 extra mags I bought all have numbers next to the witness holes, but the mag that came with the gun doesn't. This isn't an issue, I just found it interesting.
 
F-Tang said:
Got mine the other day. A bit hard to take apart because of the Canada barrel, but that's not a big deal. The gun seems solid, and the DA pull is light, but long. Can't wait to take it shooting this weekend.

One thing I noticed, the 4 extra mags I bought all have numbers next to the witness holes, but the mag that came with the gun doesn't. This isn't an issue, I just found it interesting.
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gotta make sure the take down lever is fully turned down
 
So I just got out to shoot mine and I have a question for anyone else who has had the opportunity: how does yours shoot and with what ammo? I put 250 rounds of Barnaul FMJ 95gr through it today and it was shooting low. When I lined the sights up like one normally does on a pistol, lining up the top of the front sight with the top of the rear, the gun shot about 6" low at 12m. When I instead tried to basically line up the bottom of the front sight with the bottom of the rear notch the gun shot about 2" low instead. It had fantastic groups, but just low. I was wondering if anyone else had this experience also, or if maybe trying a different brand of ammo could change things? I bought some American Eagle as well, so next time I go out I'll try that, and I plan on getting some Winchester and S&B to try out as well. I did notice when I first got the gun that the front dot is noticeably larger than the 2 rear dots, not sure if that's normal or what.
 
F-Tang said:
So I just got out to shoot mine and I have a question for anyone else who has had the opportunity: how does yours shoot and with what ammo? I put 250 rounds of Barnaul FMJ 95gr through it today and it was shooting low. When I lined the sights up like one normally does on a pistol, lining up the top of the front sight with the top of the rear, the gun shot about 6" low at 12m. When I instead tried to basically line up the bottom of the front sight with the bottom of the rear notch the gun shot about 2" low instead. It had fantastic groups, but just low. I was wondering if anyone else had this experience also, or if maybe trying a different brand of ammo could change things? I bought some American Eagle as well, so next time I go out I'll try that, and I plan on getting some Winchester and S&B to try out as well. I did notice when I first got the gun that the front dot is noticeably larger than the 2 rear dots, not sure if that's normal or what.
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Bersa's method of slight alignment is to place the center of the dot in the center of the target -this is how all of their pistols are. So if using typical sight alignment then you're putting top of sight on top of target
 
Tactical Imports said:
Bersa's method of slight alignment is to place the center of the dot in the center of the target -this is how all of their pistols are. So if using typical sight alignment then you're putting top of sight on top of target
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I mean, I could get it if I was shooting a bit low, but I was initially 6 inches low, and when I adjusted my sight picture I was still 2 inches low. I even braced my arms and was still shooting low. Like, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the targets they use at Silverdale, but it's got about a 3" bullseye with a red ring around that that's about 2" in diameter. After adjusting my sight picture such that I was basically lining the bottom of the front sight up with the bottom of the rear notch, I still had to aim at the red ring to get shots into the bullseye.

I bought some Winchester and some American Eagle, and I'm planning to get some S&B too, so that I can try different brands of ammo before I try and say definitively that the gun's shooting too low, just in case it's all Barnaul's fault. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get out again before the new year though.

I'll also try and get someone else to shoot it to make sure I'm not doing something wrong.
 
F-Tang said:
I mean, I could get it if I was shooting a bit low, but I was initially 6 inches low, and when I adjusted my sight picture I was still 2 inches low. I even braced my arms and was still shooting low. Like, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the targets they use at Silverdale, but it's got about a 3" bullseye with a red ring around that that's about 2" in diameter. After adjusting my sight picture such that I was basically lining the bottom of the front sight up with the bottom of the rear notch, I still had to aim at the red ring to get shots into the bullseye.

I bought some Winchester and some American Eagle, and I'm planning to get some S&B too, so that I can try different brands of ammo before I try and say definitively that the gun's shooting too low, just in case it's all Barnaul's fault. I'm not sure if I'll be able to get out again before the new year though.

I'll also try and get someone else to shoot it to make sure I'm not doing something wrong.
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So an update to this situation: Barnaul ammo is actually just that terrible.

I bought 3 other brands to try out; Federal American Eagle, Winchester white box, and CCI Blazer Brass. All 3 of them shot slightly left, which could just be me, but that's also easily fixable because the sights are windage adjustable. Of the 3, Winchester shot slightly low, maybe 1-2 inches, with a standard sight picture. The American Eagle stuff shot more or less point of aim, but the CCI stuff was the most accurate, shooting pretty much exactly point of aim in terms of drop each time. After having shot all of these I went back and shot the Barnaul and, once again, it shot a good 6" low. I had some other people shoot it with the Barnaul and they all also shot a good 6" low.

So moral of the story is, Barnaul ammo doesn't shoot well out of these guns. Frankly I'm astounded that there's that much of a difference, considering they're all 95gr FMJs.
 
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