BC HUNTERS: Public input sought on hunting regulation changes

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Please note this is different than the BC Management Strategy thread posted already posted on this forum.


Many interesting changes being proposed.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2019FLNR0285-002414


Many stupid proposals as well. For example no guided missiles, spear hunting, or scopes on crossbows allowed in BC

Proposed Regulations:
Prohibit the use of Precision Guided Firearms, which act as a range finder and condition sensor (i.e. wind speed/direction, humidity, temperature, distance, target movement, etc.), automatically adjusting the reticle such that a hunter simply needs to depress the trigger, lock on to the target, and the firearms discharges automatically.
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Proposed Regulations:
Prohibit the use of scopes on bows during bow-only seasons
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There are no prohibitions in place for hunting big game with alternative or primitive weapons; hunting big game (except for bison) with air guns, slingshot, spear, bolos, blowguns, atlatl, etc. is not currently prohibited.

Proposed Regulations:
Prohibit the use of any weapon other than a rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, or bow (includes longbow or crossbow) to hunt big game.
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No fighter jets?

No scopes lock on. I know they are talking about Burris eliminator and the sig bdx stuff but come on that's not even full proof lol

I'm fine with no scope on a cross bow. Should also move cross bow to rifle season.
 
I am going to bump this back to the top.

It seems most here are fixated on the proposed changes to the legal use of crossbow scopes.

That proposal is only one of many that are being made by a provincial working group that must be top-heavy with elitists and anti-hunters.

Want to keep using your trail camera? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to use a high-power air gun for hunting? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep the Waterfowl Heritage Days? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep your range-finder scope? You had better start commenting on the proposals.
 
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'Boo said:
I am going to bump this back to the top.

It seems most here are fixated on the proposed changes to the legal use of crossbow scopes.

That proposal is only one of many that are being made by a provincial working group that must be top-heavy with elitists and anti-hunters.

Want to keep using your trail camera? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to use a high-power air gun for hunting? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep the Waterfowl Heritage Days? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep your range-finder scope? You had better start commenting on the proposals.
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It doesn't seem that they're after range finding scopes. They're after those high tech systems such as this :

I absolutely support banning this kind of technology for hunting.
 
Suther said:
It doesn't seem that they're after range finding scopes. They're after those high tech systems such as this :

I absolutely support banning this kind of technology for hunting.
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So our government is worried about a product produced by a nearly defunct company that can't be exported from the United States due to security concerns? If their proposal was based on the Trackingpoint - 10-20 grand US per pop - they should get out in the real world more often rather than worrying about non-issues.
 
Hells, even if they could haul them across the border by the semi load, the price alone, would keep them from having any measurable effect on the harvest rates.

To be honest, they'd be better off banning the 'long range hunting' tv shows.
 
Slippery slope. Next, ban range finders, next scopes over 4 power etc. Do-gooders being used by anti hunters. Some real short sighted folks supporting this stuff. Govt intervention isn’t ever benign. Most of you are on ignore so no sense replying, just put my point of view in your memory bank for when you become aware and realize you have been used like a young girl dating a middle aged biker.
 
'Boo said:
So our government is worried about a product produced by a nearly defunct company that can't be exported from the United States due to security concerns? If their proposal was based on the Trackingpoint - 10-20 grand US per pop - they should get out in the real world more often rather than worrying about non-issues.
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Seems that way. I agree that it's a non issue now, but should we wait for it to become an issue or should we get out infront if it and ban it before it becomes a problem?

That's the route they took with drones - banned them before their use became widespread in hunting, that way the number of people using them is low and so is the pushback.
 
The idea has always been to drive hunters away from hunting, if they succeed, who is going to manage the wildlife? CO's will have to start culling animals instead of looking for violations, not something I believe they will be interesting in doing as the animals will be left to rot.
 
Finding people guilty of doing something even before they do it is a well established liberal trait. Unfortunately urban BC - Lower Mainland and South Island - has become a Mecca for liberals the last few decades.
 
'Boo said:
Finding people guilty of doing something even before they do it is a well established liberal trait. Unfortunately urban BC - Lower Mainland and South Island - has become a Mecca for liberals the last few decades.
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I agree

I seriously don't get why people give a #### how others hunt. One tag, one deer. Dont give a damn how you got it, as long as you only take your limit and do something with it.
 
emerson said:
Slippery slope. Next, ban range finders, next scopes over 4 power etc. Do-gooders being used by anti hunters. Some real short sighted folks supporting this stuff. Govt intervention isn’t ever benign. Most of you are on ignore so no sense replying, just put my point of view in your memory bank for when you become aware and realize you have been used like a young girl dating a middle aged biker.
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I am a middle age biker....where are those “ groupies” lol! But yea, good point with the rest of the paragraph, the anti-hunters wil just let you have a rock to use, in the end!
 
'Boo said:
I am going to bump this back to the top.

It seems most here are fixated on the proposed changes to the legal use of crossbow scopes.

That proposal is only one of many that are being made by a provincial working group that must be top-heavy with elitists and anti-hunters.

Want to keep using your trail camera? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to use a high-power air gun for hunting? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep the Waterfowl Heritage Days? You had better start commenting on the proposals.

Want to keep your range-finder scope? You had better start commenting on the proposals.
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They don't appear to be suggesting the banning of trail camera's. Only the use of wireless camera's which automatically upload images as soon as the are taken "real time".


The scopes are already banned from US export.
 
People seem to miss the point on bans. Scopes on crossbows on day then next they will ban power level on scopes to say 4x.Then total ban.As for the game camera ban if will later turn in total ban on all of them.This is death by a thousand cuts.20 years from now hunting will be done in BC
 
mussyhairhillbilly said:
I am a middle age biker....where are those “ groupies” lol! But yea, good point with the rest of the paragraph, the anti-hunters wil just let you have a rock to use, in the end!
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They beat you to it. Proposed in the new regs. A ban on the use of spears, rocks or lazer beams.

below is copied from proposed regulation change 2020-0-8


Current Regulations:



Big game is defined as elk, deer, moose, caribou, mountain sheep, mountain goat, bison, bear, cougar, wolf, lynx, bobcat, or wolverine.

There are regulations in place that state what type of firearm or bow can be used for hunting big game. For example, if a hunter is hunting with a firearm, there are regulations in place regarding what type of firearm may be used to hunt specific species (for example, it is an offence to hunt moose with a rim-fire .22 calibre rifle). Likewise, if a hunter is hunting with a bow, there is a set of criteria that the bow must meet which is specific for different species.

There are no prohibitions in place for hunting big game with alternative or primitive weapons; hunting big game (except for bison) with air guns, slingshot, spear, bolos, blowguns, atlatl, etc. is not currently prohibited.

For bison it is an offence to hunt with a weapon other than a centrefire rifle and ammunition other than ammunition constructed with a 175 grain or larger bullet which retains 2 712 joules (2 000 foot pounds) or more energy at 100 metres, or a bow having a pull greater than 22.6 kg within the archer's draw length, an arrow greater than 26 grams in weight and a broadhead greater than 8.1 grams in weight and 2.2 cm in width at its widest point. Unlike other big game, the use of alternative weapons is prohibited for hunting bison.


Proposed Regulations:



Prohibit the use of any weapon other than a rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, or bow (includes longbow or crossbow) to hunt big game.
 
Brno8x57 said:
Proposed Regulations:



Prohibit the use of any weapon other than a rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, or bow (includes longbow or crossbow) to hunt big game.
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we need to fight this change as I see it directly affecting any future chance of wilderness ATC for sidearms in the province. Which is probably the real target of the changes, they just don't want to bring that up. If they pass this crap then it will automatically be prohibited to carry a handgun for protection from large game.

Hunting regs in BC as far as the wildlife act goes are pretty good and I see absolutey zero reason to change anything..... except when it comes to recognizing Metis harvest rights.
 
Technology creep is a threat to the survival of hunting.
Hunting only survives with the tacit approval, or at least indifference, of the non-hunting majority.
Denial of this fact will only hasten the extinction of hunting.
 
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