BC Hunter who shot support dog fined and banned

Suther said:
Who said the dog wasn't under control? The dog was not far from the owner - the owner claimed to be only 10 ft away in the original news articles from when the dog got shot.
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Was it on leash out in the wild of a open hunting season?

Anyways I have nothing more to add other than if youre in the bush one has to take responsibility for their pooch and yes hunters need to be a little more observant and dead sure of the target before pulling the trigger.
 
hawk-i said:
Was it on leash out in the wild of a open hunting season?

Anyways I have nothing more to add other than if youre in the bush one has to take responsibility for their pooch and yes hunters need to be a little more observant and dead sure of the target before pulling the trigger.
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So now people aren't allowed to let their dog off leash when walking on crown land? Dog walkers have just as much right to crown land as hunters do. It's not like this dog was 100yds away, it was like 10 ####ing feet away. Furthermore they were in an area where there is no wolf season, so there is no reason to think a hunter might mistake it for a wolf and shoot it - even if a hunter mistook it for a wolf there is no reason to expect the dog to be shot.

I totally agree that dog owners need to take responsibility for their dogs, but I see nothing in this story that implies the owner was being irresponsible. The hunter on the other hand...
 
hawk-i said:
And just to be clear this gives the person involved a bad name....how does this give Hunters in general a bad name or are you just trying to be more dramatic.
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Just like with almost any identified group, the idiotic actions of one person ensure the negative angle will spread far and wide amongst opponents.
 
A hunter from Sioux Narrows is facing nearly $8,000 in fines after shooting a deer decoy across a roadway, and for not wearing hunter orange.

The Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry say that on December 1, 2018, conservation officers conducted a deer decoy operation on Maybrun Road, north of Sioux Narrows, after complaints about unsafe hunting in the area.

Conservation officers planned and controlled the operation, so only one vehicle would be in the area at a given time. During the operation, a man stopped his truck, got out, and discharged his high-calibre rifle down the road at a deer decoy.

On November 6, 2019, in Kenora court, Justice of the Peace Jennifer A. Neill fined Jess Swenson $7,500 for careless hunting and $300 for failing to wear hunter orange. He received a six-month hunting licence suspension for the careless hunting conviction. He will also need to retake the Ontario Hunter Education Program and pass the test before being eligible to buy another hunting licence.

The MNRF reminds hunters that shooting from or down a roadway is dangerous to public safety, and can lead to fines and hunting suspensions. To report a violation, you are asked to call 1-877-847-7667 or your local ministry office.


https://www.kenoraonline.com/local/7-800-in-fines-for-local-hunter
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I'd say mr dog shooter got off pretty lightly.
 
Grain said:
He got off easy. I would guess the cost of replacing a therapy dog is a lot more than 4K.
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she had a talent for calming down children who have autism.

Pretty loose definition of a service dog. The kind people use to try and get their mutts on airline flights. :(

Grizz
 
Pretty sad to see people in here trying to justify the shooters actions. Just because your dog is off lease in the forest doesn't mean it's ok to be shot at. Service dog or not, it's irrelevant.

It doesn't matter if it was a dog, wolf, coyote, deer. He wasn't allowed to hunt there and was poaching an animal. He got off way too easy.
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
the guy should be in prison, with a lifetime ban on firearms ownership and hunting

that being said is every dog now a therapy dog of some kind? I mean all dogs are but do they need a label?
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Some people consider their dog a Family member !

The guy who pulled the trigger was/is an idiot and set the bar for knuckle head.


Their are was another story of someones pet being shot in Alberta.
Not so much the therapy animal , but idiots none the less. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/that-wa...ns-pet-pig-mysteriously-shot-killed-1.4705525

Slobs shooting on/over private property and taking the ears of the pot bellied pig for what they thought was a feral hog.

Then there is the fact the animal was in a fenced field near dwellings and out builds that did not belong to the shooters.

Stupid happens every day and responsible folks wear the shame unfairly for the actions of others.

Whelan Lad posted a thread about slobs shooting deer and leaving the carcass for waste.

The shooter of the dog should have know better what he was getting into when he pulled the trigger that day and has gotten off lightly knowing

the target, knowing what is open and not open for game animals in the area he was in not to mention that humans maybe in the area hiking or

walking their dog.

Now it is time for a civil suit for the replacement of the dog and all the trauma of loosing the dog.

Rob
 
What would the penalty in that area be for poaching an actual wolf? Im not trying to stir the pot in any way but here in ontario deer poachers gets less fine and usually only a 2 year ban. Also its legal to shoot a dog at large on field land and private property. Not saying its right but for the courts to set a penalty theyre bound by certain measures and case laws. To question whether or not the penalty was fair it would be nice to know if this was the common set charge for poaching a wolf or if it went over and above the common charge.
 
I too hope the dog owner sues civily and takes enough to hurt the poacher financially for years to come. I couldnt imagine someone shooting my dog. Shes a part of my family. However shes 180lb mastif that rarely leaves my side when out
 
Weird. I’m too lazy but interested in what buddy got fined for. Technically the dogs owners must have illegally let him roam? And in that case that’s their fault. And then what did hunter get fined for?? He didn’t shoot a wolf... so that’s not a legal charge. There is no hunting charge because he didn’t poach. Dogs aren’t “livestock” so theirs no charge there... maybe I will go look....

Nope nothing said about owners being around near. Just that they were out walking a pile of dogs. Seems to be solidly in the owners fault for illegally letting their dog roam. And since you can’t say he’s poaching.... Looks like feels and an activist judge once again do the law a dis-service.
 
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CreamySmooth said:
Weird. I’m too lazy but interested in what buddy got fined for. Technically the dogs owners must have illegally let him roam? And in that case that’s their fault. And then what did hunter get fined for?? He didn’t shoot a wolf... so that’s not a legal charge. There is no hunting charge because he didn’t poach. Dogs aren’t “livestock” so theirs no charge there... maybe I will go look....

Nope nothing said about owners being around near. Just that they were out walking a pile of dogs. Seems to be solidly in the owners fault for illegally letting their dog roam. And since you can’t say he’s poaching.... Looks like feels and an activist judge once again do the law a dis-service.
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No the hunter must be sure of his target and in this case he is a retard not knowing he is shooting a dog period..
 
BioPace said:
It was a therapy dog for autistic kids. Probably about as docile as a brick of butter. Your experience of dogs must be solely of the kind you can pick up with one hand to think that this was a reasonable shoot.

"Aggressively coming at him in a threatening manner." LMAO.

Why don't you think the fact that he was out of season is a valid point? He was committing an illegal act, in an area where it's never legal. Just because a dog is coming towards you 'aggressively' doesn't give you free reign to shoot it. Imagine if posties carried guns!
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As a matter of fact some posties carry firearms in the US so I was told . one guy at a gun show in the US told me a buddy of his was attacked by a pit bull and let it have it with a .44 Mag. the bottom line is the guy should have taken a good look before he shot the dog . if it was my dog or a good friends dog buddy would have needed dental work after.
 
brybenn said:
What would the penalty in that area be for poaching an actual wolf? Im not trying to stir the pot in any way but here in ontario deer poachers gets less fine and usually only a 2 year ban. Also its legal to shoot a dog at large on field land and private property. Not saying its right but for the courts to set a penalty theyre bound by certain measures and case laws. To question whether or not the penalty was fair it would be nice to know if this was the common set charge for poaching a wolf or if it went over and above the common charge.
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Where does it say it’s legal to shoot a dog you see “roaming”? Pets get away, and people go looking for them, or they are off leash on Crown land with their masters nearby. It’s legal for a CO to do so if he believes it is harassing wildlife, but that doesn’t make it legal for hunters afield. If that belief was prevalent, a lot of people would be seeing the inside of a court room.
 
Ashcroft said:
It may have not been an accredited therapy dog, perhaps it just identified as a therapy dog. The hunter is responsible to identify his target before he shoots, however this dog certainly looks like a wolf, was apparently running free, and if there was no other person in the vicinity and nothing showing on the dog hinting 'dog', then how was he to know? As usual, we only get an edited version of this story.
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The dog was apparently only three meters from the owner.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry...mistaken-for-wolf_ca_5cd504fde4b07bc72973ff7c

, Calderoni saw her beloved dog Kaoru had been hit by a bullet about three metres away and was bleeding profusely.
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