Ordering night sights from the U.S. CANCELLED!

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I tried to order some Trijicon nights sights for a USP and got my order cancelled. This is what they said:

Greetings from OpticsPlanet.com!

Thank you for ordering:
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Trijicon Night Sight Set for USP - HK06 $84.15
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Unfortunately, at this time we are not allowed to ship this product outside of the United States due to U.S. Federal regulations. All of the following items listed below are also subject to this restriction:

1. Night Vision Equipment and Night Vision Accessories such as: Monoculars, Binoculars, Goggles, Weapon Sights, Cameras, and Multipurpose Systems of Generation 2, 3, 4, or 5
2. Thermal Imaging Equipment, Heat Seekers and Weapon Mounted Accessories
3. Optical Sighting Equipment, Accessories, and Mounting Hardware of any kind, including: Riflescopes, Holographic Sights, Reflex Sights, Red Dot Sights, Laser Sights, and Bore Sights.
4. Tactical Flashlights and other sorted accessories for the above listed equipment.

Also, if an item is intended to be attached to or to be used with a weapon of any kind, we will not export and will not assist directly or indirectly with exporting it!

Also, please note that we will not sell any of the aforementioned items to domestic customers who intend to export these restricted items out of the country.

For details, please visit our Export Policy page at http://www.opticsplanet.net/our-policy.html#export.
We have cancelled your order and have not charged your credit card. We apologize for any inconvenience that this cancellation may cause you. The consequences for exporting or assisting with the export of a restricted item can be severe, and we hope that you understand our position. If you have any further questions about our export policy or about anything else, please do not hesitate to contact us by e-mail at Sales@OpticsPlanet.com or by phone at (847) 513-6201.

Thank you for your understanding and have a great day!

Best Regards,
OpticsPlanet.com Order Processing Team
Sales@OpticsPlanet.com
http://www.opticsplanet.com
Phone: (847) 513-6201
Toll-Free: (800) 504-5897
Fax: (847) 919-3003

Anybody have any ideas on where to get this product here in Canada?
 
OpticsPlanet has always had a no-ship-to-Canada policy. You could always try ebay and see who will ship here, or do a Google search and see what turns up. Be aware that OpticsPlanet is part of a group which has the same products & policy but under different names.
 
leadfoot said:
Just go there and buy them....
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Unfortunately Optics planet is holier than the pope where it comes to exporting to Canada. (With some of the ####### politicians we have up here and their anti-americanism, not including the terrorist groups they pander to, it's a wonder anybody exports here at all)

Unfortunately buying them there and bringing it back without paperwork is a violation of US law.
 
JohnC said:
....them there and bringing it back without paperwork is a violation of US law.
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and your point is....
I figure if I am on vacation and see something for sale in the US that isn't "prohibited" here, i wouldn't think twice about throwing it in my luggage and not claiming it especially something so small...:ninja:
 
For what it's worth :) ...

The reality is that the company may be blaming US Federal Regulations for their decision not to export firearms parts and accessories, the reality is that they have probably made a financial decision not to spend the money to register as ITAR Exporters. This is a decision that a lot of US companies made a few years ago when the US raised the cost of registration.

It used to cost a US company @ $300 per year to be a registered ITAR exporter... then about 3 years ago the US raised that annual fee to $1,750.00 and made it much more difficult, time consuming and therefore costly to process export permit applications. The result was that many US companies simply stopped registering and without a current registration they can't even apply for the necessary export permits.

A US company who sells small parts and accessories will usually have only a very small portion of their business from outside the US. To spend that kind of money just to service a small percentage of their potential business just doesn't make financial sense for them. On top of that, they would have to spend hours processing each order (the paperwork is unbelieveable). It just makes the cost of doing this export business unprofitable. Especially if you only do a small number per year.

It's simply a financial decision and if they were honest about it they would tell you that, but instead they make it sound like the US Federal Government won't let them. There's no problem getting a permit to ship most small parts and accessories, but the cost of processing the paperwork involved can often far exceed the value of the items being exported, so what's the point?

It takes us hours to prepare all of the paperwork involved to process orders that need a US State Department export permit. People think we're ripping them off when we tell them $225.00 for our services... but reality is we do NOT make a profit doing 3rd Party Importations for people... it's a service that we offer. By the time we pay out our costs and calculate the hours spent, we'd be far better off not to handle it at all. We stopped handling Canada to US exports for that very reason... the cost, time and hassle just got ridiculous... so we stopped offering the service entirely.

I expect the problem to get worse as more companies decide it's just not worth the effort and as government regulations (on both sides of the border) get more difficult to comply with.

If the Canadian government goes ahead with the planned requirement for firearms to be "Marked" as apparently they intend to (December 1st 2007) you'll see more people get out of the business as this adds further to the costs and hassles of exporting firearms to Canada.

Mark
 
leadfoot said:
and your point is....
I figure if I am on vacation and see something for sale in the US that isn't "prohibited" here, i wouldn't think twice about throwing it in my luggage and not claiming it especially something so small...:ninja:
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Speaking as someone who has done some work on the insides of both CCRA (or whatever they're called now) and USBP buildings, and been a casual observer of what these "people" do all day... (i put it in quotations because i believe customs officers may not, in fact, be people... they act more like evil heartless robots) I have to say that what you are suggesting is a really really dumb idea.

The last time i did work inside of a customs building, i swore i would never do it again. I now refer canada customs to one of my competitors. Simply witnessing the way people are treated in there is enough to make me sick.

The point of my story is, when you cross the border, have your I's dotted and your T's crossed.... But most importantly, have your rusty sherrifs badge lubed up.
 
Canada doesn't care if you import something that can't legally be exported from the US without the proper permits. They only care that you pay tax on it.
 
leadfoot said:
and your point is....
I figure if I am on vacation and see something for sale in the US that isn't "prohibited" here, i wouldn't think twice about throwing it in my luggage and not claiming it especially something so small...:ninja:
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:confused:

Sorry to hear that. Well then I guess we'll see posts about the CDN agencies siezing your undeclared goods. Most persons are unaware but there are ICE and other Federal agents at all US international airports who periodically check out the contents of going baggage.
 
Hey back to the point of the OP, I was told no grips to Canada from the US. I finally found a guy in ARZ(Ghost Products) who would, thanks to a member here. So just start a thread about it asking about the sights to Canada.
 
+1 for Brownells - Everything I've bought from them has been hassle-free.

You can't find these anywhere in Canuckistan?
 
This is the site for what I wanted to buy:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-night-sight-set-for-usp-hk06.html

I'll try some other places. It seems that the "bricks and mortar" shops here in Vancouver/Lower Mainland never have any accessory I want unless it is for a GLOCk 17 or a Ruger 10/22 or something like that (most common/popular products on the market).

They have Meprolights at Brownell's for $99.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=6844&title=DAY/NIGHT+SIGHTS

I'm gonna shop around for a bit more.
 
leadfoot said:
and your point is....
I figure if I am on vacation and see something for sale in the US that isn't "prohibited" here, i wouldn't think twice about throwing it in my luggage and not claiming it especially something so small...:ninja:
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While Canada customs is interested mainly in collecting taxes as someone pointed out earlier, the US Homeland Security people - includes their customs and BATFE - monitors parts purchases and can and will inspect outgoing luggage and seize items including your car, fine you, and even give you jail time- they have no sense of humor.

While i'm not a mod, FWIW I've also seen several members get warnings about discussing illegal activities on this board
 
The point is:
discussion/advocation of illegal activities is against CGN Rules. Any such, can lead to an immediate ban from CGN.
Consider yourself as having been warned.

leadfoot said:
and your point is....
I figure if I am on vacation and see something for sale in the US that isn't "prohibited" here, i wouldn't think twice about throwing it in my luggage and not claiming it especially something so small...:ninja:
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Even Ruger won't ship something as simple as replacement grip panels across the border in the mail. They don't want to have to deal with individual orders like that and would rather go through their importers to deal with the paperwork even though things like grip panels and sights are not regulated as firearms.

I use a Sumas Washington address to ship my stuff to and just drive down and import the stuff myself to avoid the hassle. There's nothing illegal about it and I pay whatever duty and taxes are due at the border because I declare everything. Firearms and ammo are another issue though (and things like night vision)...but your sights won't even blink an eyelid at the line.
 
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