Hunter orange

northwoodslivin said:
I just don't understand why some of you people are all against saftey. .
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We arent' against safety, we are against silly laws that force people to do something that may not even have a tangible benefit.

I guess I have a better appreciation for my life and the saftey of others then some of you BC folk so it seems :confused:
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Yeah, noone in BC wears blaze orange, and virtually noone gets shot...You must appreciate safety much more than us.:rolleyes:

Ah well, I don't get it... Ya know, we have so many flippin laws here in Ontario, and you BC guy's whine over the smallest s**t.
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We arent' whining- we dont have silly blaze orange laws, so nothing to whine about.:p

There is this common misconception that the eastern woods is Sooooooo much "thicker" than BC. It's wrong. BC has many different ecosystems, and some of them are the densest forests in North America. The coastal regions of BC have forests so incredibly thick it's almost impossible to walk through them without a great deal of effort. Not to mention when a clear cut grows up a bit, you'd be hard pressed to see someone 100 feet away, regardless of what they are wearing.

I said somewhere up this thread that blaze was likely a good idea in some hunting situations, so a hunter may choose to wear it. However, it's of no consequence in many other situations. To legislate orange regardless of the situation (and then ticket hunters that don't comply) is the issue, not whether you feel "safer" wearing orange.
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2007 Ontario Regs:

Hunter Orange
The objective of the hunter orange regulation is to maximize
hunter safety without negatively impacting hunting success.
Under this regulation, all licensed hunters, including
archery hunters hunting during the gun season for deer
and moose, are required to wear hunter orange. As well, all
black bear hunters hunting during the black bear season are
required to wear hunter orange except when in a tree stand.
(This exception is in place because, unlike deer and moose,
black bears have colour vision.) *****Waterfowl hunters, wild
turkey hunters and archery hunters in archery-only seasons
are exempt from the hunter orange requirement.*****
A hunter orange garment and head cover must be worn. The
hunter orange garment must cover a minimum of 2,580
square cm (400 square inches) above the waist and be visible
from all sides. Open mesh or camouflage hunter orange must
not be part of the 2,580 square cm. A hunting coat or vest
generally meets this requirement. The hunter orange head
cover may have: open mesh; a peak or brim colour other than
hunter orange; a crest or logo which does not completely
cover the hunter orange on the side where it is affixed. The
head cover may not contain camouflage material.
Hunter orange colour standards are generally consistent across
North America.
Manufacturers can provide information regarding clothing
compliance with this standard.

In summary, you can wear whatever you want. Full camo if you like. As long as its not deer rifle season (which is only 2 weeks anyways).
 
northwoodslivin said:
But Gatehouse.

Our woods here are A LOT thicker then your woods in BC. Believe me. Have you ever hunted in Ontario? More so Northeastern Ontario?

When it comes to THICK bush, people out there grouse hunting, bear hunting, moose hunting, rabbit,fox,wolf,yote etc etc etc.. I want to stand out like a sore thumb.

Either way, the game only see blaze orange as a little lighter then the color of grass.

It just makes sense to be safe in my opinion.

If you hunted here in the thick, there is no friggin way your going to see another hunter 100m ahead or to the side of you. But with blaze orange you most likely would.

Think about it Gatehouse. And I stress again, if you have never been here or hunted our woods. Then you do not know what I am talking about.

Bottom line. It makes sense to wear it here, and it is the law.
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just cause it's the law doesnt make it a good idea :jerkit:

but since your on this line of thinking, have you ever hunted in BC? didnt think so. then you have no idea what we're talking about. and you have no basis to compare thinkness of brush lol.

I for one happen to have Hunted in Both Ontario and yes Northern Ontario and In BC and I can tell you with out a doubt BC has just as dense bush as Ontario does if not more so, so put a cork in it cause your just digging a deeper hole and your about to notice your over your head :jerkit:


Kyle.
 
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hunter orange makes the hunter alot more visible which lowers the chances of them getting shot. when im out hunting with others its very easy to lose sight of the other people when they are wearing full camo. sure you can sometimes spot them if you stop moving and scan the area but with orange you just glance over and automatically see where they are. its difficult to see someone in the areas i hunt because of the dense cedar swampy areas and other overgrown bushlots.

i wear orange during the shotgun hunt for deer when it is required if you are hunting deer or even small game in areas where the shotgun season is on.

i really dont see why people are bashing hunter orange when it doesnt effect the hunt in any way except making it easier for humans to identify others...
 
if the woods are crowded enough that i need to worry about blaze orange so i don't get shot, i am going to find someplace else to hunt.
 
Anyone who has pushed deer in southwestern ontario should appreciate orange a little anyways. When 8 deer run in front of 6 guys that are not in a straight line I dont think full camo would be my first choice;). Thats just my opinion.
 
During a moose hunt where you walk and glass I can see why hunter orange is not as big a deal, but I agree when you hunt with dogs, fast paced and so on through the thick bush of eastern Ontario, hunter orange is overkilled at our camp.
 
MiG25 said:
if the woods are crowded enough that i need to worry about blaze orange so i don't get shot, i am going to find someplace else to hunt.
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Me too. I hunt in areas where I have to camp, or on my own land :cool:. If you're one of the guys that doesn't get more than 100 yds from their vehicle, you're probably going to experience a lot more congestion, which is a good thing 'cause it keeps the road hunters away from my hunting areas.
 
Chopperhead said:
just cause it's the law doesnt make it a good idea :jerkit:

but since your on this line of thinking, have you ever hunted in BC? didnt think so. then you have no idea what we're talking about. and you have no basis to compare thinkness of brush lol.

I for one happen to have Hunted in Both Ontario and yes Northern Ontario and In BC and I can tell you with out a doubt BC has just as dense bush as Ontario does if not more so, so put a cork in it cause your just digging a deeper hole and your about to notice your over your head :jerkit:


Kyle.
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Think what you want Kyle,

I am not going to start no argument with you. But I DO KNOW that our woods are more dense then most of yours, and YES I have been to BC. Not hunting myself but when I was younger I went hunting with my uncle in Salmon Arm.

And just so you know, Ontario's woods are very different in density the further north you go.

Ever been to the Kirkland Lake area? pretty thick ####.

And about hunter orange.. do all the:jerkit: you want to. It's safe for Ontario "dude" and if you wanna argue about that then well. your just a wingding.
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northwoodslivin said:
Think what you want Kyle,

I am not going to start no argument with you. But I DO KNOW that our woods are more dense then most of yours, and YES I have been to BC. Not hunting myself but when I was younger I went hunting with my uncle in Salmon Arm.

And just so you know, Ontario's woods are very different in density the further north you go.

Ever been to the Kirkland Lake area? pretty thick s**t.

And about hunter orange.. do all the:jerkit: you want to. It's safe for Ontario "dude" and if you wanna argue about that then well. your just a wingding.
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Yes, Salmon Arm is identical to all of Alberta:rolleyes:. Try going to Bella Coola, or up the Elk River on the Island, or a hike through the slopes around Kitimat. That is called rain forest for a reason, cause you can`t see 15 yds.
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If I need hunter orange to stand out so another person doesn't shoot me then the hunter doing the shooting is not totally sure of his/her target and has no business in the bush. In B.C. we don't shoot first and identify later, we identify first.;)
 
my uncle (in BC of course....) has a favorite story about deer hunting..... he was laying down next to a log scoping out a long flat ravine with his binocular's when he noticed something moving on top of the ridge about 400yrd's away.... he spotted another hunter who had just taken up rest and was scoping him with his rifle... and making a windage adjustment..... my uncle grabbed his .308 and jumped to his knee's returning the favour by meeting the other hunter eye to eye thru his old tasco..... the fellow got up and slowly walked out of sight and was never identified....

both guy's where wearing blaze orange jacket's.... stupid is as stupid does...
 
northwoodslivin said:
Either way, the game only see blaze orange as a little lighter then the color of grass.
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Recent studies by game biologists now suggest otherwise. "Blaze" colors (Orange, red or yellow) are seen by members of the deer family as intensely white , due to their reflective nature. Don't get me wrong, I am only pointing out an erroneous belief, not arguing that ONTARIO hunters (and other mandated provinces) should not wear the stuff. Thank God I live in BC, where I don't as yet have to worry about that clothing. With the very low rate of "incidents" here, I suspect it will be a long while before we ever see it, if ever. As for claiming that BC has no thick brush, obviously the poster has never hunted coastal areas of BC. I grew up in Salmon Arm, and have hunted all over BC and Alberta. There is a vast variety of brush areas in BC, trust me, and some of that coastal rainforest is so thick it is virtually impenetrable. Guess not much danger of getting shot there, can't see 25 yards. Regards, Eagleye
 
The moral of my personal story is like this.

I might look like a wingding to you westerners for wearing my blaze orange. But for me, it's a sense of pride in a way. When I am driving to my hunting location, people walking down the street or passing me on the highway see me sticking out like a sore thumb and instantly know that i am a hunter. I kind of like that feeling :)

It shows all the non hunters that we are respectable, responseable people.

Just my personal opinion. And I really couldn't care if anyone has a problem with it or not. I don't mind wearing blaze orange, and if it wasn't law here in Ontario, I would still wear it regardless.
 
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