Registration shut down?

May or may not have to do with it,
In my 12 years of owning an RPAL, i never waited more than 1 month for registration with the exception of my first AR.
Now I’m more than 2 months in, for a ruger wrangler 22lr and a G17gen5 at two different retailers.
I did receive transfer numbers months ago but still not being processed.

9 weeks in now, am in no rush so i haven’t called in yet, but am wondering if this political turmoil has anything to do with it, and i tend to say yes.
 
Neo said:
With all due respect, you are wrong. When C-68 came into force, myself and roughly 10,000 other people lost the 12(6) firearms they purchased between 1995 and 1998. At issue was the fact that we were required to be in possession of a registration certificate in order to be grandfathered. The government cancelled the existing certificates and then willfully delayed issuing new ones until it was too late to qualify for gandfathering. This was not a case of a few delays or errors. They did it to 10,000 people. Many of us appealed in court. We all lost. Many, many judges observed that it was an unholy mess and that the government had not acted in good faith. But in not one case did the courts fail to side with the government. And 10,000 of us lost our guns.

So please forgive me when I say you could not be more wrong in your current faith in our judiciary.
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This exactly! Time to wake up!
 
All in fun I await your response. Calling people tinfoil hat wearers because they don't just give up and throw all their faith into a ####ty judicial system and a government who has wronged it's people time and time again
 
Neo said:
With all due respect, you are wrong. When C-68 came into force, myself and roughly 10,000 other people lost the 12(6) firearms they purchased between 1995 and 1998. At issue was the fact that we were required to be in possession of a registration certificate in order to be grandfathered. The government cancelled the existing certificates and then willfully delayed issuing new ones until it was too late to qualify for gandfathering. This was not a case of a few delays or errors. They did it to 10,000 people. Many of us appealed in court. We all lost. Many, many judges observed that it was an unholy mess and that the government had not acted in good faith. But in not one case did the courts fail to side with the government. And 10,000 of us lost our guns.

So please forgive me when I say you could not be more wrong in your current faith in our judiciary.
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^^ This sums it up perfectly. Thanks for sharing this. It shows clearly that when it comes to taking guns away from law-abiding citizens, our government will do whatever it wants to do. Anyone who thinks it will be a fair and just process is not seeing the true picture. It will be a very one-sided process. Look at what happened in Australia and New Zealand. They lost their guns. Forget court appeals and forget a fair judicial system, it won't happen for us gun-owners.
 
Neo said:
With all due respect, you are wrong. When C-68 came into force, myself and roughly 10,000 other people lost the 12(6) firearms they purchased between 1995 and 1998. At issue was the fact that we were required to be in possession of a registration certificate in order to be grandfathered. The government cancelled the existing certificates and then willfully delayed issuing new ones until it was too late to qualify for gandfathering. This was not a case of a few delays or errors. They did it to 10,000 people. Many of us appealed in court. We all lost. Many, many judges observed that it was an unholy mess and that the government had not acted in good faith. But in not one case did the courts fail to side with the government. And 10,000 of us lost our guns.

So please forgive me when I say you could not be more wrong in your current faith in our judiciary.
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I am not familiar with what actually happened. How did you “lose” the firearms? Did someone knock on your door or did you voluntarily hand them over at a predetermined location?
I have often wondered what the government would do with mass noncompliance. Would they suspend passports? Send someone to your door?
I would like a province or two to tell the Feds that they will not comply. RCMP within their borders will lose all funding if they try to enforce new “firearms laws”. Offer any firearms business that wants to move to these provinces tax free status for a few years.
There has to be a tipping point where socialism is stopped.
 
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With all due respect, you are wrong. When C-68 came into force, myself and roughly 10,000 other people lost the 12(6) firearms they purchased between 1995 and 1998. At issue was the fact that we were required to be in possession of a registration certificate in order to be grandfathered. The government cancelled the existing certificates and then willfully delayed issuing new ones until it was too late to qualify for gandfathering. This was not a case of a few delays or errors. They did it to 10,000 people. Many of us appealed in court. We all lost. Many, many judges observed that it was an unholy mess and that the government had not acted in good faith. But in not one case did the courts fail to side with the government. And 10,000 of us lost our guns.

So please forgive me when I say you could not be more wrong in your current faith in our judiciary.

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What BS! Well, they knew you had those ones.. ZERO Compensation..w0w! Again. LIBERALS..Go after Criminals..plz. Not {us} PAL/RPAL Holders who have no criminal records/activity going on! Who are Vetted continually, as Honest People/Citizens. I don't believe you will have much of a compliance rate & just create a problem, when those pushed in a corner have to make a choice about their property, & 'what' to do with it.

Honeydealer said:
I am not familiar with what actually happened. How did you “lose” the firearms? Did someone knock on your door or did you voluntarily hand them over at a predetermined location?
I have often wondered what the government would do with mass noncompliance. Would they suspend passports? Send someone to your door?
I would like a province or two to tell the Feds that they will not comply. RCMP within their borders will lose all funding if they try to enforce new “firearms laws”. Offer any firearms business that wants to move to these provinces tax free status for a few years.
There has to be a tipping point where socialism is stopped.
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Reminds me of Nazi Germany .. not saying you aren't on the $... & Think of all the Business, lost/gone. Mom & Pop shops, closing or down sizing. All for a bunch of BS stats, "issues" that have very little to No connection to us ... Damn liberal puff queens..
 
Writing letters and signing a petition won't change the fact that the government will do what it pleases. I can promise you those letters are being tossed in a recycling bin or shredder the moment after the secretary opens them and see what it's about.

They don't care what we want, they want to do what'll keep their base and the general public happy. Most people don't care about guns as they aren't involved in hunting or shooting sports. We are a very small number of people in the grand scheme of things on a national level. The real protest to their changes is to do what YOU want, regardless of what they tell you or what changes they put forth.
 
IvoB said:
will they force us to register non-restricted firearms after a certain date - is it time to buy now?
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Yes, buy everything you think you might want or need while you can, along with plenty of ammo. And if it's non-restricted, don't hand it in when the government says to. I've been telling a couple guys at work that kind of want to buy sks's that they should buy them now, not later.
Kristian
 
IvoB said:
will they force us to register non-restricted firearms after a certain date - is it time to buy now?
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Once C71 appeared like it was happening, I started buying all the NR’s on my “to buy” list. I have half a dozen guns I haven’t even got around to firing yet, and a few more I’m yet to buy. I don’t want to be buying after the “not a registry” registry is in place.
 
Davidkjs1 said:
All in fun I await your response. Calling people tinfoil hat wearers because they don't just give up and throw all their faith into a ####ty judicial system and a government who has wronged it's people time and time again
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He won't respond you know because facts, or he's trying to find some, because you know facts! ;-)
 
Every time a nation increases taxation and enacts more laws, the more you need to pay attention. Buy now while the going is good, thank me later.
 
MartyK2500 said:
May or may not have to do with it,
In my 12 years of owning an RPAL, i never waited more than 1 month for registration with the exception of my first AR.
Now I’m more than 2 months in, for a ruger wrangler 22lr and a G17gen5 at two different retailers.
I did receive transfer numbers months ago but still not being processed.

9 weeks in now, am in no rush so i haven’t called in yet, but am wondering if this political turmoil has anything to do with it, and i tend to say yes.
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Whoa.
You might want to change your province...here in Sk it's still approved next day...

CG
 
That happened with the 12-2 class, RCMP dithered around till after the cut off date.
fellow ended up in supreme court and won his case.
I will not post his name. John may know I speak of.
Back in the 1990.s a lot of people sat on the fence, and now kick them self for not buying a $50.oo 32 or 25 auto, or what ever, because they where scared they may lose the gun.
They did when they bought after the magic date, which they could at the time, you had to sign off on it.
BTW revolvers are selling good now.
Mr Wolverine said:
Just something to think on, this is pure speculation on my part!

In the past when prohibited classes were created the "Grandfathered" individuals had to have a firearm in that class either registered to them or application to register made before the cut off date.

At that time we were handicapped as import approvals were delayed.

With the current system if the CFC registry was closed "application to register" would be impossible. Computers could be down, there could be staff shortages, files could be lost, the excuses are endless.

If you are thinking of purchasing a currently restricted firearm I would not leave it until the last minute, you might find that due to "Technical difficulties" you have run out of time, there would be no appeal.
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Yes , but you knew that going in. There was a date the act was announced , after that it was iffy, and did not work out.
We knew at the time there was a cut off date, some waited too long.
Mind you I don't think that will make any difference in this case.
people are still buying guns, of all type, thou I do see 22 target pistols are not moving that great, but center fire are.

Neo said:
With all due respect, you are wrong. When C-68 came into force, myself and roughly 10,000 other people lost the 12(6) firearms they purchased between 1995 and 1998. At issue was the fact that we were required to be in possession of a registration certificate in order to be grandfathered. The government cancelled the existing certificates and then willfully delayed issuing new ones until it was too late to qualify for gandfathering. This was not a case of a few delays or errors. They did it to 10,000 people. Many of us appealed in court. We all lost. Many, many judges observed that it was an unholy mess and that the government had not acted in good faith. But in not one case did the courts fail to side with the government. And 10,000 of us lost our guns.

So please forgive me when I say you could not be more wrong in your current faith in our judiciary.
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