Shots fired on Hamiltons beach strip Its duck hunting season

The hunters are idiots. That location send all kinds of wrong messages about gun owners and hunters.

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As hunters and firearms enthusiasts, it’s paramount that we keep our sport as much in the shadows as possible. If we’re doing our job right, the general public will never even know we exist. This is the critical link in the chain which ensures that our generation of hunters will be the last. That’s why I don’t support any of the orgs like NFA, CCFR, CSSA, etc. I’m worried they might spend my money promoting my sport, and nothing could be more detrimental to its swift decay than public awareness.


Edit: ^ soooper doooper sarcasm in case it wasn’t clear. Fact is, anyone who calls fellow hunters “idiots” for doing something perfectly legal... is an idiot themselves.
 
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If the sport is kept in the shadows it will seem very out of place when someone starts shooting at game or targets prompting more calls to the police, if people hunted in this area the story is about all the time it would seem very usual to anyone walking by and not worthy of raising any eyebrows. Hide it and more people get upset when they do hear shooting and then new laws will be in place to protect the complainers.
 
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As hunters and firearms enthusiasts, it’s paramount that we keep our sport as much in the shadows as possible. If we’re doing our job right, the general public will never even know we exist. This is the critical link in the chain which ensures that our generation of hunters will be the last. That’s why I don’t support any of the orgs like NFA, CCFR, CSSA, etc. I’m worried they might spend my money promoting my sport, and nothing could be more detrimental to its swift decay than public awareness.

Wrong! Keep our sport in the shadows and watch society continue to infringe.

Keep our sport alive and well and watch our community grow, along with normalizing the lifestyle.

These people were not shocked because someone is shooting on lake Ontario, they are shocked because they are uneducated about hunting and hunting rights in general.
 
Had cops called on me first time out with the hounds this season. Had my truck parked in a farm field laneway and I was about 300 yards away at the bush when I seen the cop pull in behind me. Someone else was shooting not far away and someone called the police. Cop said suspicious vehicle and gun fire reports. Didnt have to show any ID to the cop, Had my rifle on my shoulder the entire time, Cop said he has to follow up on reports, Thanked me for walked all the way back, Then we went on our way. I wish people would mind there own business. Land owner was hunting with me and was on the other side of the bush. I'm pretty sure it's the renter of the house on the corner of the concession that called the cops, Because they trespass and walk their dogs were ever they feel like it, In places we hunt.
 
Its entirely the image it portrays. Legal yes but you dont walk down the street with an SKS on your back even though its legal. My comment is baised entirely on the area poor choice and poor judgment. I agree we should not necessarily operate in the shadows but we should be respectful to the communities we are in. Lead by example.
 
Soon we'll be at the Hunger Games level of scrutiny for hunters. No hunting for food allowed anywhere, no guns allowed for hunting, your government will give you all you NEED and nothing more. Trust us. Who needs to hunt when we have grocery stores??!?? The public has been used to hearing gun shots by gangs. You are not allowed to contribute to their anxiety by hunting for food for your family.
 
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As hunters and firearms enthusiasts, it’s paramount that we keep our sport as much in the shadows as possible. If we’re doing our job right, the general public will never even know we exist. This is the critical link in the chain which ensures that our generation of hunters will be the last. That’s why I don’t support any of the orgs like NFA, CCFR, CSSA, etc. I’m worried they might spend my money promoting my sport, and nothing could be more detrimental to its swift decay than public awareness.

I whole heartedly disagree. Why should I or any other hunter doing a legal activity have to hide in the shadows? As long as hunters are following the laws they have every right to do so. If the guy walking his dog doesn't like it, to friggin bad he can go walk his dog elsewhere.
 
Its entirely the image it portrays. Legal yes but you dont walk down the street with an SKS on your back even though its legal. My comment is baised entirely on the area poor choice and poor judgment. I agree we should not necessarily operate in the shadows but we should be respectful to the communities we are in. Lead by example.

The problem with this is that once we no longer hunt or use an area and the uneducated and antis move in, we will never be allowed back into this area.
And so on until we have nowhere to hunt.
 
Humans are the oddest creatures. Whenever they hear a gunshot :shotgun: they all figure it was directed at them. Sort of like every clap of thunder means the lightning just barely missed.
 
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As hunters and firearms enthusiasts, it’s paramount that we keep our sport as much in the shadows as possible. If we’re doing our job right, the general public will never even know we exist. This is the critical link in the chain which ensures that our generation of hunters will be the last. That’s why I don’t support any of the orgs like NFA, CCFR, CSSA, etc. I’m worried they might spend my money promoting my sport, and nothing could be more detrimental to its swift decay than public awareness.

If the sport is kept in the shadows it will seem very out of place when someone starts shooting at game or targets prompting more calls to the police, if people hunted in this area the story is about all the time it would seem very usual to anyone walking by and not worthy of raising any eyebrows. Hide it and more people get upset when they do hear shooting and then new laws will be in place to protect the complainers.

Wrong! Keep our sport in the shadows and watch society continue to infringe.

Keep our sport alive and well and watch our community grow, along with normalizing the lifestyle.

These people were not shocked because someone is shooting on lake Ontario, they are shocked because they are uneducated about hunting and hunting rights in general.

I whole heartedly disagree. Why should I or any other hunter doing a legal activity have to hide in the shadows? As long as hunters are following the laws they have every right to do so. If the guy walking his dog doesn't like it, to friggin bad he can go walk his dog elsewhere.



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Easy there fellas. Read it again. Come on, lol. You know me better than that. I thought I’d left that post sufficiently dripping with sarcasm. To be clear, my opinion lies exactly opposite to my sarcastic post.
 
The problem with this is that once we no longer hunt or use an area and the uneducated and antis move in, we will never be allowed back into this area.
And so on until we have nowhere to hunt.

The antis moved into hamilton long ago. Its as dead of a city as Toronto. This seems to bring more negativity to the sport then a positive portrait of a responsible gun owner. Just my opinion I guess.
 
Its entirely the image it portrays. Legal yes but you dont walk down the street with an SKS on your back even though its legal. My comment is baised entirely on the area poor choice and poor judgment. I agree we should not necessarily operate in the shadows but we should be respectful to the communities we are in. Lead by example.
Just how many places do you suggest hunters not hunt because it might offend someone? What is the correct distance away from silly people who might be offended? 1000 meters, 10 kilometers, dark side of the moon?
 
The antis moved into hamilton long ago. Its as dead of a city as Toronto. This seems to bring more negativity to the sport...

What sport? Shooting? Legal hunters make the shooting sports look bad? Is that what you’re saying, Matt?


... then a positive portrait of a responsible gun owner. Just my opinion I guess.

How is a perfectly legal duck hunt anything but a positive portrait of a responsible gun owner? They didn’t do anything unsafe or illegal. They were fully compliant with the law. In fact, if anyone was flirting with the law, it was the guy who called the police. (Section 13.1 of the FWCA - interfering with a lawful hunt)


I think it’s time you got out of the city Matt. Go let your rifles taste the air outside of a range for once. There’s a lot more fun to be had with rifles than poking holes in paper. Plenty of good eating too.

... just my opinion I guess.
 
What a frustrating effn thread. Even the police are saying it is legal and yet we have naysayers in here.

Good scoop for the hunters and maybe some relief for the folks sick of duck/goose crap all over the place !
 
I shot my most recent wild boar in a park in Cologne, Germany. October 2019. At midnight. Within 200 M of a row of houses. I was using a 30-06. Doing so is completely normal in Germany. I have hunted the city parks of Cologne three or four times now over the past ten years. Never a problem.

Please note: some city people in a much more urbanized part of the world have no problem with hunters doing their thing on their doorstep, after dark, with rifles. Canadian society could learn a few lessons.
 

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Cologne Germany: we were hunting Roe deer. In a place like Stanley park in Vancouver or perhaps Rouge park Toronto. This is how they handle the public walking on the city park forest trails. Post a sign like this one (from a neighbouring city, Hagen). in effect "We are hunting here, please stay away today" the lady walking her dogs stopped to see how we were doing before turning around. Offered the old forester Udo a " Waidmannsheil" - the ancient German hunters greeting. A good day. and NO conflict.
 

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I shot this, my first wild boar a few years ago. From a tree stand along side a Cologne soccer field. They played soccer under the lights until 11:00 PM. After the teams left and the lights went out, the wild boars started to move about 11:30. I shot it just behind the goal posts a few minutes later. I was within 150 meters of a row of houses and a busy street. The boar was delivered to a veterinary inspection station, and then sold to the best restaurants that specialize in serving wild game. The money generated by the meat goes back into managing the forests. A European system very well supported by the public. Hunting in a very urban area can be a good experience for all involved. But you might have to start thinking differently. Not sure Canada is ready for that.
 

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