Inspiration for the ruffed grouse hunters

Grouse Man

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I wrote this a while back, and wanted to share it again with the grouse hunters, as the season is underway again. I can hardly wait for more leaves to drop!


Why aren't porcupines considered a great game animal? Why is the white tailed deer a great hunting challenge? Why do people hunt? Do you consider shooting barnyard chickens to be 'hunting'? Does blasting fish in a barrel satisfy your shooting goals? Do you hunt for the meat only, or is there more to it than that?

No one can force you to hunt, or to hunt in a certain way (beyond safe and legal), or for whichever reason you wish to hunt. But I'll explain my approach to grouse hunting. Yes, I shoot a nice English-style 20 ga side by side that I couldn't afford to buy today, but No I've never gone hunting in tweeds and tie. I've shot them with .22, 12 and 20 ga. I have worn out three pair of hunting boots and two pair of Columbia upland pants. I have also shot grouse on the ground and even killed one with a rock. But after close to 30 years (!!) of bird hunting, shooting grouse on the ground gives me no satisfaction whatsoever. Hunting them, though, is an entirely different matter, and at the end of the day I'm as happy to count flushes and shots as birds in the vest.

The whitetail deer is tough to stalk, as it has senses, camoflage, speed, agility, and brains on it's side. Bagging one takes skill and luck, and tests your shooting ability and nerve. Most are wary of humans and wily in their attempts to remain unseen where they can be hunted. Other animals provide these same challenges - ducks and geese have great eyesight, learn from experience, and are tough, fast birds. Moose live in areas where access is tough and the going hard. Very rarely are most game animals 'easy' in any sense of the word. However, the ruffed grouse is somewhat unique as a game animal. They often times seem to care nothing about whether they are being hunted by humans or not, it seems like they are sometimes more tame than farm animals. They get called 'stupid', and 'fools hen' for this behaviour, and treated like chicken fingers on legs. Other upland birds like pheasant or quail will hide more effectively from hunters than ruffed grouse. Grouse will walk away a little bit until they're kind of out of sight, but still well within gun range. They do not recognize humans as a predator, like a fox or coyote. Their first line of defense is to hold still, secure in their fantastic camoflage. If they are downwind of the predator, they feel even less threatened. They know that a fox or coyote will be somewhat hampered trying to rush them through the branches and thickets that they rely on for safety, so a few yards separation is a good safety factor for them. Their final defense is flight. And few birds can match their agility, save for woodcock. After exploding from cover, they seem to be able to fly through branches and leaves in a winding pattern that should break the wings of other birds. They will fly only just far enough to escape, then land within sight and take off running in a different direction. This defense mechanism has worked for them against natural predators. But against humans and guns, it is found to be lacking.

I said the ruffie was a unique game animal for just that reason. To kill a ruffed grouse is not hard. I've killed one with a rock. To find them is not hard (if they are around). They walk along roads and trails, and sit in trees watching us. It only take a few pellets to bring one down cleanly. A ruffed grouse on the ground presents all the challenge of a pop can. Anything from a .410 to 12 ga, or .22 to .300 WM can be used to take it, albeit with differing results.

But let it flush, and take you by surprise? Suddenly the bird transforms into a brown rocket, weaving through trees and branches and bushes. If you've managed to recover your composure and get a shot away, you most likely hit leaves and bark if anything. Your heart is pounding, and the lack of bird in hand just leaves you wanting more of this action! "I'm gonna get that bird if it's the last thing I do!" And you may or may not. But that's why it's so addicting - the chase! The challenge! This becomes the great wingshooting test, hitting these birds in the air. But they are only a challenging game animal when they are in the air. And it is the hunter himself who makes this transformation in the bird, and he does this voluntarily. Without it there is no excitement, no thundering flush, no brown blur that defeats us. We allow it to defend itself by it's means, we play on his turf by his rules. If skeet were merely about breaking targets, we would set them on the ground and shoot them where they lay. The game is about HOW we shoot them, not just to hit them.

We don't need to offer this gesture in order to make deer a challenge to hunt. But if you allow the ruffie this 'head start', it makes all the difference in the world. Now you will realize the shortcomings in your firearm. A rifle is useless, of course, with a flying bird. And most shotguns aren't ideally suited either. If you do manage to connect, you know that only a few pellets are needed to bring it down. A Full 12 ga. load of #6 isn't necessary, but a big, wide pattern is what's needed to kill very effectively. A bird flying away, getting hit with the pattern from Open Cylinder or IC at 15 yards or so, will get pellets in the back and wings, but few if any in the breast. This is why 'grouse guns' were developed; double barrels and Cylinder bores, 7-1/2 and #8 shot, light and fast handling, the gun is designed to the task and very specialized. A heavy, Full-choked pump may be great for geese, but here in tight bush it's almost useless. After a while, you want a lighter gun to carry longer. You realize you don't need 12 ga loads to kill, and that Full choke either misses too easily or hamburgers too effectively. A very fast second shot is needed, but a third is almost never utilized. You need a gun that you can move VERY quickly if you want a chance at connecting. Without a good grouse gun, your frustration at wingshooting grouse will very soon overcome you. And a lot of people leave it at that and take the easy way out.

Beyond that, you realize that this wingshooting thing takes PRACTICE! This little 'fools hen' is escaping from you without a scratch! "How the hell did he do that? I thought for sure I had him!" Well, yes, a fast moving target is hard to hit. Sooooo, you've got to shoot more. Skeet or sporting clays is great practice and you will develop skill with time. Whoever said that they don't like shooting more? Like with golf clubs, there are only a certain number of 'misses' in shotguns, and the more you shoot those 'misses' out of the gun, the better it will hit while hunting. But some people don't like to shoot their shotguns more to try to learn how to be a better shot. I guess they don't like shooting. Me, any excuse to shoot is a great excuse. Do rifle shooters wish to be accurate? Of course! They practise and shoot and get better and take pride in their ability. But a shotgun isn't a rifle, and they are different skills entirely. To hit a distant target with a single bullet takes some skill, but to hit a close and stationary target with a shotgun takes none.

Quite a few of you 'get it' and look forward to this silly, often unproductive chase. But when you do connect with a ruffed grouse on afterburner, and drop it cleanly through the branches, after numerous flushes and many empty shotshells, you'll understand. After that you will treat them with the respect they deserve.

And all it takes is a simple, sportsmanlike gesture to your seemingly weaker opponent.
 
I enjoy stalking the elusive "ruffie" as they are a fair weather bird. No toil with boats, decoys, mud up to ones knees and no frozen fingers! Love to walk the bush trails and thickets with my venerable M12, 16 and a pocket full of one ounce 8's.

Just that it seems to me that in the past half dozen years or so most of my favorate ruffed grouse haunts have been over-run with people bombing around on quads and sporting shotguns. Troubles me greatly to see this great outdoor activity slowly turning into another motorized activity by some that would be much better off walking behind the things... judging by their physical apearance that is. Just my 2 cents worth.

Great post Grouseman.
 
You're absolutely right - of course. I enjoy all kinds of shooting and hunting, but nothing compares to the satisfaction of wingshooting ruffies. Ghosts of the Forest we call them. Sometimes you'd think they can fly through pellets and trees. Sometimes it's as though they simply vanish.
 
Ghosts of the Forest we call them. Sometimes you'd think they can fly through pellets and trees. Sometimes it's as though they simply vanish.

:confused: put down the meth pipe........ :D

Ruffies are my favorite birds to shoot. they are fast and challenging. but around here, they fall out of the sky quite easily if you do your part

great essay \Grouse Man
 
:confused: put down the meth pipe........ :D

Ruffies are my favorite birds to shoot. they are fast and challenging. but around here, they fall out of the sky quite easily if you do your part

great essay \Grouse Man


A good grill on the front of the truck helps. :p :D

Man all this talk about grouse...time to start packing my shotgun with me to the woods again. :)
 
There are few things in life that are more exhilarating than walking down an aspen linned logging trail, taking in the colors and smells of the fall, and having a grouse explode at your feet!
 
I love pointers and grouse!!! Nothing quite like a nice pointer locked up on a grouse and the explosion of a flushing bird! True magic!!!

Cheers
Jay
 
Good read, Grouse Man. Thanks.

Amphibious, around here the underbrush is still thick with leaves. If you have two full seconds before the bird is out of sight then you have an easy shot. Most are not so easy. "Doing your part" IS the challenge.

The wing shooting so far this year has been excellent. The ruffies are plentiful and very lively, and the weather has been good enough. We hope to latch onto a covey or two of Huns that I think I know the whereabouts of, and sharptail season opens Oct. 1st - the high holy holiday of my year. Later we hope to head south for pheasant. The 20 gauge Army & Navy is turning out to be all that I had hoped it would be. All in all, it is shaping up to be a great season.

Sharptail
 
Gentile men:

I truly do not mean to hijack, however, If you could help a pilgrim on his way, I would be thankful.

I have hunted big game with many of my friends, and to be honest it has lost a lot of its appeal. My wife does not eat the meat, and I am stuck doing it on my own or end up giving much of it way.

However I have truly enjoyed hunting grouse, particularly ruffies. I am at the point where I am contemplating going with my friends, simply to hunt grouse.

I do not have a dog, but everyone need to start some where.

I do have a lovely sxs 12 gauge 125 Thalman that it a pleasure to hold. It has 28" barrels, and is very over choked at full on full.

If some one could steer me in the right direction with regards to choke combo and barrel length, you would have my gratitude.

Regards and all the best

R
 
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They will fly only just far enough to escape, then land within sight and take off running in a different direction

!!!!!! What grouse are you hunting? Most of ours go for a couple hundred yards before stopping! :runaway:

I agree, know exctly what you mean, and aside from some technical aspects :D am totally on board with this post :pirate:

The tradeoff with chokes comes with th 410, where your big wide pattern is nothing but a hindrance. I am craving the days of my old single shot full choked cooey, versus the difficulty I have now shooting my MOD choked Wingmaster. Sure, I can put more lead in the air, but even at 15-20m, it's almost useless, with a spread of over 4 feet with #6 shot.

Mr Wagner, your 12ga will do just fine as is, as long as you can keep the bead on the bird.

I spend the first 5 to 10 days of grouse season (Sept1-5) (right in the middle of bow season) exclusively chasing coveys of grouse, much to the chagrin of my bowhunting buddies :D Singles and doubles are great, but I like the rush of finding 6 or 8 birds at a time and never knowing when the 'last one' might pop from the scrub. Season's almost over here (Nov 15). It's been such a brutal season. Almost no birds in Sept, a few more in Oct, but now in late Oct, there are more birds around but they are allowing you no closer than 25m before flushing, which is forcing me to take the 12 afield tomorrow evening.

Here's to an empty box of shells, and a bird in hand.
 
I do have a lovely sxs 12 gauge 125 Thalman that it a pleasure to hold. It has 28" barrels, and is very over choked at full on full.

If some one could steer me in the right direction with regards to choke combo and barrel length, you would have my gratitude.

Regards and all the best

Richard

For ruffies, OC, IC, Skeet would be my choices in a 12.

If you're out after sharptails, then I'd add a bit more choke, like IC or halfway to Mod. at most.

Your barrel length is fine in a double.
 
The tradeoff with chokes comes with th 410, where your big wide pattern is nothing but a hindrance. I am craving the days of my old single shot full choked cooey, versus the difficulty I have now shooting my MOD choked Wingmaster. Sure, I can put more lead in the air, but even at 15-20m, it's almost useless, with a spread of over 4 feet with #6 shot.


If it's a Cooey 840 the pivot plate is a cheap plastic piece of crap!!! I have 2 of those and both have broken pivot plates. :mad:

I'd rather have the Wingmaster then the Cooey crap. In fact I have a 870 express .410 full choke. Much nicer!

cooeyshotgunModel840ForendPivotPlat.jpg
 
Love hunting ruffies. Just got back this afternoon from a grouse hunt with my eight year old son . We both took the day off school and went hunting. I walked his legs off but he sure came back to life when my Ithaca went boom and we brought a few home with us.

Grouse hunting is a father and son rite of passage. In a couple of years he'll be shooting. Can't wait:D
 
I don't know what cooey it is but its really old and its killed more grouse than anything I've ever held.

Grouse-Man. I am definitely NOT hunting sharptails, although I wish we had more than we do and a season for them.
I have yet to figure out why the ruffed grouse got a reputation as being stupid, because out here they are one of the smartest birds in the bush.

K98.....can you show me a picture of where it says on your 870 express stamped FULL. To my knowledge, Remington has chambered all their 410's in MOD.
 
K98.....can you show me a picture of where it says on your 870 express stamped FULL. To my knowledge, Remington has chambered all their 410's in MOD.

Yep, it does indeed say FULL. Bought it from S.I.R. last year. I can take a picture outside tomorrow when the lighting is decent.

I think this one is a lot like my gun. Wish I could see the larger pics.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976966410/Guns/Shotguns/Remington-Shotguns/Pump/Hunting/870_EXPRESS_410_GA_LIKE_NE.htm

Here too...
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=83459468
 
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Damn. That ALMOST makes me wish I had looked at the express. But the express, is not the Wingmaster :D I am getting my gun drilled for choke tubes..
 
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