Push feed vs controlled feed

Push vs controlled

  • Push

    Votes: 73 30.5%
  • Controlled

    Votes: 130 54.4%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 36 15.1%

  • Total voters
    239
Smooth operation is key, if the bolt is notchy, sloppy and does not travel back and forth silky smooth with little to no pressure on it, its not for me
 
I guess I would be in the "don't care" group. Have both styles and I am able to screw both up by times. I have a question though. Is there a difference between push feed double stack magazine like rem 700 and the push feed single stack like Savage or Tikka? Seems only one shell exposed to the bolt eliminates some problems.

Tikka has a very smooth operating action compared to a rem 700 or savage
 
It doesn't really matter if it is push feed or controlled round feed if both systems function correctly.
A controlled round feed is no better than a push feed if it doesn't work.
The same goes for the push feed.
... and I have seen both systems with failures.

What is important is that you are familiar with your rifle and have tested it thoroughly.

Exactly.
 
Tikka has a very smooth operating action compared to a rem 700 or savage

i understand your preference but my thought is the single stack means that even if a person has an operator mistake you can only mess up with one cartridge. a double stack may allow 2 cartridges to pop free. thoughts?
 
A single stack magazine is the saviour of push feed rifles. I spoke with a very well known push feed accuracy gunsmith in the US about his use of single stack magazines. His main praise of them was the single stack elimination of feeding issues.
 
There's a lot of le/mil 700 based actions that have seen hard use in theater across the world. As much as everyone wants to play Hemingway with their CRF, I would expect that if this was a real issue there or in the Savannah the push feed actions would have between dumped years ago.

That being said, I like a good claw extractor as much as the next guy.
 
i understand your preference but my thought is the single stack means that even if a person has an operator mistake you can only mess up with one cartridge. a double stack may allow 2 cartridges to pop free. thoughts?

Never experienced it myself, so I don't see it being an issue
 
Frankly, who cares if it works upside down.

If I get a funky round that doesn't want to chamber I want to be able to get rid of it before the bolt goes completely home. With a push feed you have no grip on it, so your options are jam the bolt home and hope the extractor gets a grip ( in the meantime you've just pushed the errant cartridge even tighter into the chamber ) or go find a cleaning rod.

Plus, the CRF just feels smoother in operation to me.

I guess you guys never seen that sales pitch when wincherster making a big deal about reintroducing the CRF. I thought it was goofy then to.
 
I own 1 CRF rifle that is mag fed and its interesting but I cant single load cartridges, they have to come up from the mag. For this reason Im on the fence but leaning more towards Push Feed
 
does it exist? I have yet to find any crf that even comes close to my Sauer

They do exist... usually they have been worked over, or they have thousands of rounds through them.
Have several Dane M69's that are 6.5x55 target rifles built on K98's. You don't even feel the round chambering it.
Another one is an FN98 rechambered from 9.3x57 to 9.3x62, it was worked over and feeds like butter.
 
A smooth CRF that feeds as smooth as a push feed.

does it exist? I have yet to find any crf that even comes close to my Sauer

They do exist... usually they have been worked over, or they have thousands of rounds through them.
Have several Dane M69's that are 6.5x55 target rifles built on K98's. You don't even feel the round chambering it.
Another one is an FN98 rechambered from 9.3x57 to 9.3x62, it was worked over and feeds like butter.

if you have a tv stay few days in a row actionning the action and you will see how smooth it become.
 
The only time I have made pushfeeds jam while being held sideways or upside down was working the bolt slowly or using a short action length cartridge in a long action. (Some guns use one length action for all their chamberings, but many put a spacer in the back of the mag to fix this)). I own almost all CRF actions, but if you work a pushfeed briskly, they just dont ereally feed poorly IMHO.
 
does it exist? I have yet to find any crf that even comes close to my Sauer

I had a Sauer 202 Forest I nearly took lion hunting, opted for another rifle but not because the 202 isn’t nice. While silky, an Oberndorf commercial sporting M98 is no different for smoothness and effortlessness in cycling. There are a lot of good CRFs as smooth as my 202 was, but you have to spend 202 money on them go figure. :d The current new production M70s are very damn smooth too, not 202 smooth but they aren’t 202 priced either. And I’d still choose the M70 for dangerous game.
 
"Smooth" is not one of the criteria that I"m overly concerned about in a hunting rifle. No, I don't want an action that is gritty or binding or some other sort of defect but there are other things more important to me than being silky smooth. It's not like I am going to notice smoothness when operating a bolt in a hunting situation.
 
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