Max shotgun rounds per the RCMP

Ahhh so the Troy PAR (pump action rifle) a 223 or 308 version means I could theoretically have a 30 round capacity and not be a ‘prohibited’ device). I am referring to the magazine, as I think these accept a wide variety of manufacturers..

Any thoughts.


The PAR uses a STANAG rifle magazine so it the magazine used must be pinned to 5.
 
The law is concerned with what capacity the magazine was originally intended for. That's why we can use 10-round LAR mags in our rifles, because they are intended for use in a handgun. That's why .40SW magazines are legal even though you can fit more than 10 rounds of 9mm.
 
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Yes - Grew up with rifles/shotguns on the farm, then pretty much left them untouched as I moved to the big city for edumacation, wife, and kids. But now my kids are at an age where we can enjoy shooting together, and I'm "catching up" on 20 years of firearms developments.

Top of mind (because kids) is safety and legality. I want as many shells as I can jam in the damn thing, and for many many clays and watermelons to pay the price...but I'm trying to avoid a situation where one of my kids' shooting memories is "that day dad got his shotgun confiscated".

Hence my attempt at clarifying the topic from the RCMP's perspective (because regardless of the 'code, it would likely be the RCMP interpreting it on the side of the road).

Apologies for causing a fuss!
 
OP you posted the correct answer in the first post.

.3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in

(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,

A 3.5" shotgun magazine in designed to hold 3.5" shells. The fact it can also hold shorter shells is wholly irrelevant, as those are not the shells it was designed to hold.

If this interpretation is incorrect, than those Aguila mini shells should never have been approved because they make every single 12ga semi a prohib.
 
STANAG is a type of magazine common across NATO and doesn't refer to a specific magazine. STANAG magazines are limited by the five round semi-auto centerfire rule.

Yes, I was being a trouble maker :)

The RCMP says STANAG rifle mags are limited to 5, but that's not what the law says. This is evidenced by the fact that they already differentiate between STANAG handgun mags and STANAG rifle mags. Not recognizing STANAG manual bolt action mags is entirely arbitrary and inconsistent with the law.
 
Yes, I was being a trouble maker :)

The RCMP says STANAG rifle mags are limited to 5, but that's not what the law says. This is evidenced by the fact that they already differentiate between STANAG handgun mags and STANAG rifle mags. Not recognizing STANAG manual bolt action mags is entirely arbitrary and inconsistent with the law.

STANAG is a dimensional standard, not a specific magazine. The AR15 (M16 specifically) was chosen as the basis for that standard, thus all stanag pattern mags are AR15 mags. The stanag Pistol mags are an exception not the rule.
 
Just like the Rcmp claiming that ruger 10/22 mags with more than 10 rounds capacity are prohibited...

They conveniently make $#!t up as they go without bothering of going through the proper channels to get the laws changed..
 
Just like the Rcmp claiming that ruger 10/22 mags with more than 10 rounds capacity are prohibited...

They conveniently make $#!t up as they go without bothering of going through the proper channels to get the laws changed..

Exactly! There is NOTHING in the law about "pattern" magazines or magazines designed for a "platform", i.e. "10/22 platform". It's all just RCMP unicorn burps.
 
Yes - Grew up with rifles/shotguns on the farm, then pretty much left them untouched as I moved to the big city for edumacation, wife, and kids. But now my kids are at an age where we can enjoy shooting together, and I'm "catching up" on 20 years of firearms developments.

Top of mind (because kids) is safety and legality. I want as many shells as I can jam in the damn thing, and for many many clays and watermelons to pay the price...but I'm trying to avoid a situation where one of my kids' shooting memories is "that day dad got his shotgun confiscated".

Hence my attempt at clarifying the topic from the RCMP's perspective (because regardless of the 'code, it would likely be the RCMP interpreting it on the side of the road).

Apologies for causing a fuss!

Perhaps your credibility would be greater if you had not deleted the name of the RCMP official. If this is indeed a formal RCMP interpretation, the name of the person responsible for the interpretation is part of the decision. For example, it was Bill Etter of the SFSS who issued the interpretation that allowed a 10 round handgun magazine to be used in a semi auto centerfire long arm.
 
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