True words. not IMHO Give a kid a 410 to learn on and he just gets frustrated. Give him a 20 and he'll be a shotgunner for life. I'm lookin for a 687 Silver Pigeon. I do have a BSS with a straight grip (English Stk) and it is a dream to shoot plus an 870 Wingmaster. 20's are great and are extremely versatile although like anything, "within their limitations.
I do seem to shoot my 28 more than my 20's these days, though.
20's inexpensive to shoot and actually will kill birds at any reasonable distance..and sometimes beyond. .410 thanks, but I'll pass.
Here is a pretty good vid on the 28 vs 12 sorta funny that at the 4min mark even though the 12ga out patterns with no holes and tighter. The 28ga with larger pattern and holes large enough to miss the kill zone on a quail still somehow out preformed the 12ga?
Nothing the myth of sub gauges can’t do...
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I think the internet as a whole would astound him. Everyone is a genius now. He would be just another Joe.
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What the video shows me is that had the 12 gauge shooter swapped his mod choke for an IC his pattern would be larger and denser.
Here is a pretty good vid on the 28 vs 12 sorta funny that at the 4min mark even though the 12ga out patterns with no holes and tighter. The 28ga with larger pattern and holes large enough to miss the kill zone on a quail still somehow out preformed the 12ga?
Nothing the myth of sub gauges can’t do...
What the video shows me is that had the 12 gauge shooter swapped his mod choke for an IC his pattern would be larger and denser.
There is no magic with the 28. Most 28 gauge guns are made on 20 gauge frames. I got out of the 28 gauge when it occurred to me that for the same weight I could have a gauge that was cheaper, more available and came in a wider variety of shell types.
What the video shows me is that had the 12 gauge shooter swapped his mod choke for an IC his pattern would be larger and denser.
There is no magic with the 28. Most 28 gauge guns are made on 20 gauge frames. I got out of the 28 gauge when it occurred to me that for the same weight I could have a gauge that was cheaper, more available and came in a wider variety of shell types.
I like my 28's, but the price and availability of ammo is a problem. The 20ga target loads are available, and cheap. Cheap enough to not bother with 28.
If you can afford a quality 28 gauge why does the cost of ammo matter ?
On account of the volumes I shoot!
If you can afford a quality 28 gauge why does the cost of ammo matter ?
Not really true regardless what some say . Lots of the baby frames out there. Many of mine are NOT and yes they are normally more money which is why many don't buy one
The last 28 I sold a ruger O/U was sweet and on a 28 frame. Just have to look
Cheers
I wondered when the derail police would show up.
I'm not policing anything. This was interesting when it was about 20 gauge. Not so much now.



























