Cheap .22
- Thread starter Leroyjenkins
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- West Quebec
Excellent post I agree totally
Yes!
For a bolt gun, the Norinco scorpio EM332A is a great choice. You can can get 10 shot mags for around $20 each. Awesome comfort with the thumbhole stock, light weight and very accurate. Low bolt lift on this one. Gotenda has them for 190 right now:
https://www.gotenda.com/shop/firearms/rifles/scorpio-em332a-22lr-bolt-action/
Second bolt gun choice is the Norinco JW-15A with the 13" or 24" barrel. The newer ones are good, but the older ones were I think fitted better, i.e. smoother actions. These use the CZ452 mags, so expect to pay more. The bolt lift is a bit high, so you may have to use higher rings to make it work. But the guns are a decent copy of the cz452.
You'd have to watch the EE to find one.
Semi auto choice is the Norinco JW20, but it has a tube mag that feeds from the stock, so more of a walking gun.
There is one on EE right now for $190. My local Canadian tire has them for around that as well.
All three might need a little tweaking before they are perfect, but anyone that's a little handy can handle it.
Respectfully, that is a load of crap. I started on a single shot Cooey about 55 years ago. When I got back into shooting, I got both a Nork JW 15 with the long barrel, and the Scorpio. The Nork took a lot of work to spot the action in, but was exceptionally accurate; the Scorpio was great right out of the box, and only took a little JB plastic to firm it up in it's stock. Both the fit and finish on the Scorpio rifle and action as well as the bluing are about 2 x better than on any savage built today. While I have moved on to CZs from both of these rifles (I just like their look and feel better) both of the Chinese rifles routinely out shot about everything else at our competitions.
It's not nearly so much about the rifle as it is about the shooter. Most bolt action rifles shoot very well with the right ammo; when they don't it's the shooter, and throwing money at at a rifle will not make anyone a good shot. Likewise, throwing an expensive scope on an expensive rifle before learning how to shoot well with irons will guarantee you will never be much more than an average shot with an expensive toy.
The OP should just go and buy the cost effective Scorpio; go out and have a lot of fun setting up the sights, finding a good ammo (mine liked CCI STD better than any of the more expensive stuff out to 50 yards); once he get's it shooting where he wants it to; then maybe put a good scope on it and start reaching out to 100 yards plus. He can likely sell it for almost what he paid for it if he decides to upgrade to something else in a year or two, but this will get him shooting; and he can try other rifles out at the range before he spends big money on something he is unsure if he will like it or not.
It seems that the Chinese clone rifles made by Norinco must be very good shooters. They have been described in this thread by different posters as "pretty accurate," "quite accurate," "just as accurate [as a CZ, at least one particular rifle]," and "very accurate" at least twice so far.
While this implies Norinco clones are indeed accurate rifles, readers may wonder if these positive descriptions come with some qualification. Are these clones pretty accurate for an inexpensive rifle, quite accurate for a Chinese clone?
What kind of accuracy can a Norinco .22LR shooter expect? What is a reasonable standard of accuracy for a Chinese clone? Surely not every individual Norinco rifle is very accurate or even pretty accurate.
Even CZ rifles, with which some Norinco models are compared, vary considerably in their accuracy. Some CZ rifles shoot very well for a CZ rifle, while others do not. Are the Chinese Norinco rifles like the CZ rifles in that accuracy can be hit or miss?
While this implies Norinco clones are indeed accurate rifles, readers may wonder if these positive descriptions come with some qualification. Are these clones pretty accurate for an inexpensive rifle, quite accurate for a Chinese clone?
What kind of accuracy can a Norinco .22LR shooter expect? What is a reasonable standard of accuracy for a Chinese clone? Surely not every individual Norinco rifle is very accurate or even pretty accurate.
Even CZ rifles, with which some Norinco models are compared, vary considerably in their accuracy. Some CZ rifles shoot very well for a CZ rifle, while others do not. Are the Chinese Norinco rifles like the CZ rifles in that accuracy can be hit or miss?
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+1 to this, the xt22 is a great shooting gun for the price.
no disrespect taken at all, this is all about opinions.
single shot cooey? when you could have a modern semi with a 25 round mag and ability to mount a scope if desired. yeah sure ok.
cheap Chinese clone? no thanks not for me, for firearms or any product.
I thought the A22 would be a slight step up from the $150-$200 range and be something that wouldn't need to be replaced with something better in the future.
