what's the average LoP for a male?

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I'm a white male & stand shy of 6ft. I'm curious about what the average LoP is as I really like the Cricket / KSA rifles, but they're stocks are for youth and their adult stuck is ugly as sin, so wonder what I would have to do for spacers to make it fit with their stock stock.
 
scout_289 said:
Depends how well you're hung ;-)
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Mans measurement or womens?

Anyways, i believe its 13.25". Youth stock is more like 12.75, kids LOP could be much smaller.

I am 5'10", 200; my LOP is 12.75". Short body and arms. My problem is the opposite, i like shooting overbore magnums. Apparently everyone who does is a giant. Therefore, most of my rifles need to be wood/fudd, so i can alter length for fit.
 
Broad range: The LOP of the Daisy BB gun I got for Christmas when I was a tiny four year old is probably around 10"... fast forward a couple decades after I had grown tall and scrawny in my teens, to bulkier in my twenties... a LOP on one of my shotguns is 14.5" though in light clothing an additional 1.5" longer would be more appropriate. I've never tried measuring a theoretical maximum LOP I could actually shoot nor ever been custom fitted for an optimum. Just under 6.5' tall ~210lbs member of the (apparently) only racist race as well.

For the record, I picked up a Henry youth 22 lever and for some reason I enjoy using it as much as the kids in my life. It's an inch or two on the long side for the smaller kids to use or enjoy.
 
I hunted for the first 2 years with iron sights and always thought the factory LOP fit me properly, until I added a scope... now I need something way shorter. After adding a bulky hunting jacket, I would much rather having something a bit shorter than a bit longer. From what I've researched, standard LOP is between 13.5 and 13.75.
 
Rule of thumb I've always used was to place the buttpad in the crook of your elbow and if the LoP is good, you should be able to bend your tip of your trigger finger onto the trigger comfortably. If you are gong to shoot prone, make it a little longer; if you are shooting standing, make it a little shorter.
 
Mr. Friendly said:
quick question. most of the Cricket rifles have an LoP that starts at 10.5" and can go out as much as 11 7/8". in a bench rest scenario, how uncomfortable would operating a rifle with an LoP that's an inch or so too short for you?

thanks!

can't really add a pad to this:
https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/product/crickett-precision-rifle/

but you could this...but no info on what it's LoP actually is:
https://www.keystonesportingarmsllc.com/product/crickett-xbr/
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It may well be that LOP will not be an overriding factor in what the rifle is capable of doing, even if it looks like a BR rifle. Nevertheless, a close-to-average LOP would be desirable for an adult as it would aid in making shooting more rather than less comfortable.

 
I'm closer to a 14" LOP. I find most rimfires and larger bore rifles to be a little short for me, but I make do. As it was mentioned earlier, look for a slip on butt pad. I did this for my Remington 597 and it fit's me better. The more comfortable you are, the better you will shoot. In general theory at least. There are always exceptions.
 
grauhanen said:
It may well be that LOP will not be an overriding factor in what the rifle is capable of doing, even if it looks like a BR rifle. Nevertheless, a close-to-average LOP would be desirable for an adult as it would aid in making shooting more rather than less comfortable.

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I take it you're intimating that there is better for the same price? do enlighten me if this is the case! :)
 
Mr. Friendly said:
I take it you're intimating that there is better for the same price? do enlighten me if this is the case! :)
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For a young shooter learning how to shoot for accuracy, the Cricket XBR single shot rifle shown in the link in post #12 may well be a very suitable rifle. At 32" in length and 4.6 pounds in weight it is well sized for kids. It even has a muzzle brake.

Another Crickett to consider is the Precision Rifle (see image below). It comes equipped with a scope and a bipod. It has an adjustable cheek piece and the LOP is adjustable from 10 3/8" to 11 7/8". It weighs 4.7 pounds and is about 32" long. It shares the Crickett action common to other Crickett single shot .22 rimfires. In Canada it goes for about 450 dollars plus taxes. It is also probably best suited for smaller shooters.



Can adult-size shooters use the rifle effectively? No doubt they can, but perhaps not with the same ease that would come with a more generously-sized rifle. I don't know if the Crickett XBR (the one linked above by the OP) is available in Canada, but there are many dealers stocking the Precision Rifle.

Is there something better for the same price? For a small shooter perhaps its a very good choice. For an adult, the EE daily has many choices that might very well be a better one. There's nothing in the design of the Crickett that makes it more accurate than many previously owned rifles available for under $500 with no taxes.

But in the end if a Crickett floats someone's boat, who is anyone to tell him it's not the right rifle for him. It's his boat.
 
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