Range Report: STI Spartan

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First impressions:



The only other 1911 I have experience with is the Norinco. Both full-sized 5" frame 1911s, the Norinco feels more "solid" and "classic" than the Spartan, and you can tell that the Spartan frame and slide are cast.

Working the action, the Spartan feels less "positive" in its slide movements than the Norinco. On the other hand, the Spartan is much smoother and requires less force to manually chamber a round using the slide.

Slide serrations on the Spartan are, in my opinion, somewhat less "gripping" than the Norinco. The Spartan serrations, like the other features on the pistol, are more smooth than the Norinco. There are no sharp edges on this pistol that I have encountered so far, unlike the Norinco. The safety and hammer require less force to operate. However, the safety again feels less "positive" than the Norinco.

The Spartan comes with some of the most popular "mods" for 1911s, such as front slide serrations (which were useful to me on one occasion), an extended beavertail, and grip stippling. The beavertail makes one-handed shooting more pleasant, though I have to compensate for it in my two-handed grip as it gets in the way compared to a stock beavertail. The magazine appears bevelled, and the magazines require less hammering in than the Norinco.

I am of mixed opinion on the grip stippling (which is on the rear of the grip - I think it should be on the front). It is handy when the pistol is covered in excess oil, or your hands are sweaty. But most of the time my grip is fine and the stippling only pokes my hand and makes shooting unpleasant.

The sights are good. The front sight incorporates an orange fiber optic that is very easy to pick up. Sight acquisition is very fast and easy, both for quick snap shooting, and bullseye aimed fire.

The STI Spartan's parkerized finish appears more durable than the Norinco's blueing. At least, with this limited use, there are almost no wear marks yet, and the finish has not given way.

I have not even tried to field strip it yet as I am not familiar with the full-length recoil spring guide at this time.

First trip to the range

I should mention that the trigger on this pistol is easily the lightest of any handgun that I own, resembling a used or tuned S&W revolver SA pull. You can feel a hint of the crunchiness before the gunsmith worked on it, but it is very easy to pull (absolutely unlike the Norinco).

I fired 100 rounds of factory UMC yellow-box .45 ACP using high-quality 1911 magazines, including the magazine that came with the pistol. There were no failures, it ran 100% reliably.

I was able to fire one 2.25" 5-round group at 20 yards, and one 2.75" 8-round group at 20 yards. I also produced what would have been a 1.5" 5-round group, had it not been for one flyer. I am not normally capable of firing much better than 2.25", so this makes it one of my more accurate pistols. A better or more experienced shooter would likely produce better groups. It may well be capable of 1.5" at 20 yards from what I have seen so far.

I took it out to 50 yards freehand and it will hit silhouettes, but requires you to compensate of course. At close ranges (7-10 yards) you are practically placing bullets on top of one another and it will shoot as accurately as you can.

Recoil seemed less than with the Norinco. That could be from the guide rod, from a potentially better grip, slightly different ammunition than usual, who knows? Speaking of the grips, they look nicer than the Norinco's plastic, obviously, though I don't know how much more functional they really are.

In summary, for the price range and compared to the Norinco, I would have to say that the pluses of this pistol are the sights, smooth operation, easily-improved trigger, very fast operation, and decent out-of-the-box accuracy if you do your part. It is set up for range use out of the box.

The negatives are the non-classic feel, "features" that may be redundant, and cast parts (though I have not yet seen any negative effect from the use of cast parts.)
 
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I have not even tried to field strip it yet as I am not familiar with the full-length recoil spring guide at this time.

You shot a brand new gun without cleaning and lubing it first?
 
It's not normal practice, but I talked to the smith and he had put a lube of sorts on it. I inspected it as best I could without stripping before firing and there were no problems. Though I did lube the barrel, slide and hammer areas before firing of course.
 
It's not normal practice, but I talked to the smith and he had put a lube of sorts on it. I inspected it as best I could without stripping before firing and there were no problems. Though I did lube the barrel, slide and hammer areas before firing of course.

OK, just that packing oil usually doesn't have any lubricating properties.
I am of mixed opinion on the grip stippling (which is on the rear of the grip - I think it should be on the front).
The mainspring housing can be replaced easily and cheaply if desired, you could even swap in the one off your norinco. BTW is MSH steel or plastic?
I gotta get one of those Spartans....helluva deal.
 
These 1911's are an incredible bargain!

They sure are nice...I just got one through Gunnar. It is simply magnificent. I put a set of Hogue rubber panel stocks...I think they match the business look of the gun beautifully, and feel great - slimmer than the factory stocks did. I've only had mine out once so far but a couple hundred problem free rounds later, there was a gaping hole chewed out of the center of my 15-20 yard target. These guns shoot tight groups! ;)

Anyway, here is mine shown with my MD SV1911 holster.

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Where do I start?

Unregistered, this is a great and fair report. When all is said and done is the STI Spartan the equal of a Norinco 1911A1? I have a lot of respect for my two 'rincos.

Jeff/1911, who made the holster? It appears to be a well made copy of an Askins Avenger.

Thanks to both of you.

Regards,

Richard:D
 
I have a Norinco 45 1911A1,last weekend I had a chance to have a look at a Spartan.I must say that I was very impressed.

The fit and finish is far better than my Norinco,the slide to frame and barrel fitting was also much tighter.Also better was the sights,trigger,beavertail,the list goes on.Really no comparison.As for actually shooting it,The Spartan shot circles around my Norinco,and fed anything(unlike the Norinco which will only feed round nose,at least in my gun)

I guess that you could send a Norinco away to a gunsmith to have these features changed on a Norinco,but Im sure that after all is said and done the Norinco will cost quite a bit more(besides waiting 6+ months for a gunsmith to do the work),and you will still be left with a Norinco rather than a STI

My Norinco is OK for plinking,but not much else.A new shooter could take the Spartan and use it for IDPA/IPSC whatever out of the box.

I also have a STI Trojan,and actually think that the Spartan is a better deal than that gun(even though I really like that gun)

Hopefully the Spartans will stay at that price(or even get cheaper with the exchange rate!),as they get more popular
 
Nothing wrong with Norinco 1911's...

Where do I start?

Unregistered, this is a great and fair report. When all is said and done is the STI Spartan the equal of a Norinco 1911A1? I have a lot of respect for my two 'rincos.

Jeff/1911, who made the holster? It appears to be a well made copy of an Askins Avenger.

Thanks to both of you.

Regards,

Richard:D

Hi Richard,

The Holster was made by Mark Decoveney, of M-D Enterprises. I believe he was out of Florida when I ordered it a few years back. He does very nice work indeed.

Regarding the STI SPARTAN folks...

Having owned two Norinco 1911's myself (both a Comander and full size) I am happy to comment here about the difference I see between these and the STI Spartan. I customized both of my Norinco's quite extensively, using top name parts and Kuhnhausen's Book of the .45 for guidance. I learned a great deal, and decided to call myself "Jeff/1911" at that time, because of my new found passion for these guns.

I started with the 5" Government model, and bought about $800 worth of McCormicks, Ed Brown and other big name parts for it. When I was done, the only stock parts left in it were barrel, frame and slide. I built it to Ace Hindmans specs for a .45 Super gun. It was, and still is (my nephew has it now) a fabulous 1911...reliable, accurate and very nice to shoot. ;) The Commander I bought later and treated similarly, putting about $500 in parts into it. It performed equally well...I was very pleased.

These guns are to me, both fabulous examples of what can be done with the stock Norinco 1911A1. These guns are renowned to use very good, well tempered steel, have chrome lined barrels, and are generally a little rough around the edges as delivered, although very functional. :)

I don't regret doing anything with regard to the two I owned, as the experience and fun I had was invaluable to me. :D

When I received the STI Spartan this week, I looked at it and thought..."Wow...it's just as nice as my fully Customized 1911 Government Model...". The frame to slide fit is better than I could ever get my Norinco to be, and it probably shoots a bit better. In any case, at $799 I think it is an incredible bargain. ;)

For any one you Canadians in the market for one...buy one through Gunnar at ARMCO, and enjoy the very pleasant buying experience he offers today!

Jeff.

Here are a few pics of the Commander I did up...

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Sorry about the delay in getting back - I was out of the country for a bit. In comparison to my stock Norinco, one thing noticeable about the Spartan was that the STI shot more smoothly. I don't know how to put it, but maybe it was the full-length guide rod bringing more consistency or less recoil, and the ergonomic features of the pistol, including the beavertail, but the pistol seemed to recoil or jump or hurt less than the Norinco.

When I fire the Norinco 1911, I am usually tired after about 60 rounds. But I fired 100 with the STI and still wanted more! For range plinking at least, I would say the STI beats out the Norinco. As a classic 1911 with forged steel that can be modified to the user's content, the Norinco delivers.

Note that I could get an STI cheaper and more quickly than a Norinco modded to my standards. If I had the technical ability to customize 1911s, it might be a different story.
 
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